XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: mmikeda@erols.com   
      
   Paul S. Person  wrote in   
   news:ffi228livevaaiud1osi612f7cb6qifan7@4ax.com:   
      
   > On 06 Aug 2012 22:05:08 GMT, Michael Ikeda    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>Paul S. Person  wrote in   
   >>news:h79t18l8nf4t697vebj5fk1epchilks9n0@4ax.com:   
   >>   
   >>> I would also like to take this opportunity to point out, in a   
   >>> desperate attempt to revert to the actual topic of this thread   
   >>> (from which, I agree, I have diverged), that a /competent/   
   >>> storyteller, when telling a story whose set up is that old   
   >>> Bilbo is telling Frodo what young Bilbo did, would realize   
   >>> that this restricts him to those things Bilbo actually   
   >>> experienced.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >>It is entirely possible for someone to tell a story that   
   >>includes events that they did not personally experience but   
   >>learned of in other ways.   For example, by hearing about them   
   >>from Gandalf.   
   >   
   > But then we (the audience) would have to be /told/ that Bilbo   
   > learned it from Gandalf. Or whoever.   
      
   Or not.  Bilbo could simply relate what happened to (for example)   
   Gandalf while he wasn't present.  The implication that Gandalf told   
   Bilbo about the events at some point would not really need to be   
   stated.  Especially since we would later learn that Bilbo and   
   Gandalf travelled back to the Shire together.   
      
   >   
   > Do you really think, given /LOTR/, that PJ is capable of even   
   > imagining (never mind doing) such a thing?   
      
   Of course I do.  Not actually sure why you don't.   
      
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