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   Lewis to Raven   
   Re: Origins   
   21 Aug 12 14:26:56   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies   
      
   In message <503399ac$0$56771$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk>   
     Raven  wrote:   
   > "Stan Brown"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   > news:MPG.2a9ca583d6348c8798da2a@news.individual.net...   
      
   >> The Elves in /The Hobbit/ have never seemed to me to be consistent   
   >> with the Elves in the rest of the legendarium.  Elves in LotR and   
   >> Silm, especially the Noldor, are beautiful and terrible; Elves in   
   >> /The Hobbit/ are mostly flighty and silly. (Elrond, please note, was   
   >> not an Elf but an "elf-friend" in /The Hobbit/.  The Elvenking   
   >> [Thranduil] was not silly, but his people were.)   
      
   >    Not in the Battle of Five Armies.  But most of The Hobbit is a children's   
   > book.  Even story-internally, where TH along with the LotR are the accounts   
   > of Bilbo, Frodo and (the last bits) Sam, compiled in the Red Book of   
   > Westmarch with annotations from other scribes and handed down over the ages   
   > to us in modern times, it may be argued that in There and Back Again, Bilbo   
   > used a deliberately silly tone in describing his own adventure.  Perhaps he   
   > wrote, unconsciously or not, to a Shire audience, and only the later parts   
   > (after the Thinking Fox, perhaps?) were with a wider readership in mind.   
   >    In the early part he then paid attention to the more laughey-chatty side   
   > of the Eldar whom he met.  Thus they come through to the reader as silly,   
   > save where events were so un-silly that he must describe the Elves in other   
   > terms.  But when he wrote of Frodo's adventure, and when Frodo wrote about   
   > them himself, a more heroic tone was chosen - most of the time.   
      
   Exactly my take on it. Bilbo wrote his story as a lark and a way of   
   keeping his adventure fresh in his mind. By the time Frodo came along   
   the story had necessarily become quite serious.   
      
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