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   From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies   
      
   In message <504caa5e$0$56788$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk>   
     Raven  wrote:   
   > "Stan Brown"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   > news:MPG.2ab64cf7aee81be698da84@news.individual.net...   
      
   >> On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 22:21:06 +0200, Raven wrote:   
      
   >>>    Another explanation is that Sauron began to build a stronghold around   
   >>> SA 1000 at that spur of  Ered Lithui.   
      
   >> You have to get around the fact that the Tale of Years specifically   
   >> says it was the Barad-dûr.   
      
   >    Yes.  And one way to get around it is to notice that Minas Tirith - "The   
   > Watch-tower" - is in practice the name not only of the Citadel or the   
   > tallest tower in it, but the whole city.  It may be that "Barad-dûr" is used   
   > in the same way: not only The Dark Tower, but the whole stronghold, and   
   > after about SA 1600 a mighty tower was built and became the chief and   
   > largest part.   
      
   I think it makes more sense that Sauron built Barad-dûr in SA1000 and   
   then used the power of the ring to infuse the foundations of the tower   
   such that as long as the ring existed, they could not be destroyed.   
   Certainly Sauron never foresaw even the possibility that he could lose   
   the One Ring, or that it could ever be destroyed.   
      
   This would also lead to the rapid rebuilding of Barad-dûr in the Third   
   Age after his expulsion from Dol Guldur by the White Council. With the   
   foundations intact, rebuilding the tower would not take long.   
      
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