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|    Was Gollum a Fallohide?    |
|    17 Nov 12 09:54:25    |
      From: no.spam@no.spam              Concerning Gollum acquiring the Ring, Gandalf tells Frodo:               Long after [Isildur], but still very long ago, there lived        by the banks of the Great River on the edge of Wilderland        a clever-handed and quiet-footed little people. I guess        they were of hobbit-kind; akin to the fathers of the fathers        of the Stoors, for they loved the River, and often swam in it,        or made little boats of reeds.              I suppose because of the above I've seen assertions in the Google       archives for this forum that Gollum was a Stoor.              However, Gandalf goes on to say:               There was among them a family of high repute, for it was large        and wealthier than most, and it was ruled by a grandmother        of the folk, stern and wise in old lore, such as they had.              The prolog in FotR says:               Before the crossing of the mountains the Hobbits had already        become divided into three somewhat different breeds: Harfoots,        Stoors, and Fallohides.               In Eriador they [Fallohides] soon mingled with the other kinds        that had preceded them, but being somewhat bolder and more        adventurous, they were often found as leaders or chieftains        among clans of Harfoots or Stoors. Even in Bilbo's time the strong        Fallohidish strain could still be noted among the greater families,        such as the Tooks and the Masters of Buckland.              It's a bit of a stretch, of course, but Gollum's grandmother       could have been a Fallohide, and so could Gollum himself.       And the bold, adventurous quality of the Fallohides would have       made him all the more dangerous.              ps. I wonder if the Fallohides made any particular effort to maintain       their distinct breed [JRRT's own word; see above] after they       had mingled with the other kinds. IRL there is a tendency for       the upper classes to discourage marrying "beneath one's station",       although few societies took this to such an extreme as       the ancient Egyptians.              SQ              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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