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   From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies   
      
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     Igenlode Wordsmith  wrote:   
   > Lewis  wrote in message    
      
   >> In message <20121228233258.75F00EAB55@snorky.mixmin.net>   
   >>   Igenlode Wordsmith  wrote:   
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   >> > The one place where I seem to differ from all previous reviewers was   
   >> > that I didn't actually like the riddle scene much, when we got to it.   
   >> > I'm sure Gollum wasn't going round talking to an invisible second   
   >> > personality in the original story (or was it supposed to be the Ring he   
   >> > was addressing here?),   
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   >> The dual identity of Sméagol and Gollum has been well established in   
   >> the LOTR movies.   
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   > I know; but I thought (at least in book terms) that it was Frodo's   
   > kindness to him that caused the long-buried Smeagol-personality to   
   > re-emerge. At the time when Bilbo encountered him, he was all Gollum!   
   > I don't like the literal interpretation of arguing with oneself as   
   > physically jerking round and looking over one's shoulder -- when I argue   
   > with myself, it's a matter of simply interrupting -- but presumably this   
   > is already movie-canon.   
      
   But sare you arguing with two entirely different personalities? I'd   
   think not.   
      
   > One good thing that has arisen out of this thread was that I spent some   
   > hours last night listening to the Radio 4 adaptation again, and was   
   > reminded how very skilfully this was translated into radio terms (the   
   > opening of the radio version actually covers very much the same   
   > territory as the opening of the Hobbit-film) despite actually being much   
   > more freely adapted than I had remembered: some beautiful examples of   
   > non-exposition in the rustic pub-dialogue, and Gollum's capture by the   
   > Nazgul(?) rendered with elegant simplicity as a single fading howl of   
   > protest: "Puts us down -- puts us down....!"   
      
   I think I've nly ever heard the LOTR radio play. There's one of The   
   Hobbit as well?   
      
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   'You make us want what we can't have and what you give us is worth   
   nothing and what you take is everything and all there is left for us is   
   the cold hillside, and emptiness, and the laughter of the elves.'   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)