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   Glenn Holliday to Igenlode Wordsmith   
   Re: [SPOILERS] The Hobbit (Part 1) revie   
   30 Dec 12 17:51:53   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: holliday@acm.org   
      
   On 12/29/2012 10:33 AM, Igenlode Wordsmith wrote:   
   > Lewis  wrote in message    
   >   
   >> In message <20121228233258.75F00EAB55@snorky.mixmin.net>   
   >>   Igenlode Wordsmith  wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> The one place where I seem to differ from all previous reviewers was   
   >>> that I didn't actually like the riddle scene much, when we got to it.   
   >>> I'm sure Gollum wasn't going round talking to an invisible second   
   >>> personality in the original story (or was it supposed to be the Ring he   
   >>> was addressing here?),   
      
   In that passage, Tolkien says of Gollum "(who always spoke to himself   
   through never having anyone else to speak to)."  Jackson has liberally   
   expanded on that to get the fully distinct separate personalities   
   on screen.  I did like the throwaway gag "We wasn't speaking to you."   
      
   >   
   > And I was reminded that I very much prefer this version of Gollum (in   
   > which the actual "gollum" becomes a plausible gulp). I'm afraid I'm   
   > going off Andy Serkis, heresy as that seems to be.   
      
   You mean the radio "gollum?"  Tolkien says "And when he said 'gollum'   
   he made a horrible swallowing noise in his throat."  I like the way   
   Serkis interprets this.  It sounds more like an involuntary vocal tic   
   or throat-clearing than the way most people pronounce "gollum" while   
   swallowing the word.   
      
      
   --   
   Glenn Holliday holliday@acm.org   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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