Copy: cc-marine@earthdink.net (Clams Canino)   
      
   On Friday, January 4, 2013 1:19:44 AM UTC+11, Clams Canino wrote:   
   > "Sandman"  wrote in message news:mr-   
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   > > That's what I mean by questioning whether Saruman was ever "corrupted"   
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   > > by the ring, or "yielded" to his desire for the ring. He was never   
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   > > given the chance to reject it when faced with it.   
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   > > In short, his desire for the ring could be likened to any given   
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   > > persons desire for wealth, yet without actually having it, no one   
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   > > would be said to have been corrupted by it.   
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   > He was "corrupted" by a desire for Power. To order the world in his vision.   
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   > There is no doubt that he was seeking the Ring to that end. There is not a   
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   > chance in hell that he would have rejected it when faced with it.   
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   > Corrupted *by* the ring is a stretch, yes.   
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   > But corrupted *toward* the Ring is another matter intirely.   
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   > Before he was ensnared by Sauron in the Palantir, he was likely thinking   
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   > that if he only had that Ring, he could defeat and supplant Sauron.   
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   Technically saying that Saruman the White was corrupted by the Ring is   
   incorrect. He never once got hold of the Ring in person. He was corrupted by   
   his pride, and also through the use of the palantir.   
      
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