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   Geza Giedke to Michael Graf   
   Re: Declared Ringlords   
   03 Mar 13 20:20:23   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: joedoe3@gmail.com   
      
   Michael Graf schrieb am 03/03/2013 07:46 PM:   
   > Am 01.03.2013 19:22, schrieb Paul S. Person:   
   >> On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 04:33:19 -0800 (PST), solar penguin   
   >   
   >> Interestingly, when Frodo defied the Riders at the Ford of the Bruinen   
   >> (I hope I got that name right, it's been a while since I read the   
   >> book), he held them back, at least for a moment (well, if I remember   
   >> correctly, he did, anyway). Perhaps, for that moment, he was using the   
   >> Ring as a ringlord would, and so the Nazgul were unable to assault   
   >> him, even though he didn't have it on.   
   >   
   > I don't think so, as he didn't wield it, for from all what we know you   
   > have to wear the ring to do so. But the ring seems to have an imminent   
   > power (even if not worn), as can be seen e.g. from the way the orcs   
   > beheld Sam (Cirith Ungol). Maybe this power "impressed" the wraiths.   
      
   while I agree that Frodo was not holding the Ringwraiths back at the   
   Ford with the power of the Ring (I thought their reaction was surprise   
   at his strength and courage to still defy them), I always thought that   
   some of the power of the Ring *could* be tapped even when not worn:   
      
   * Galadriel says that Frodo perceived her thoughts better than many   
   others (and that was one of the main powers the Ring would give to   
   Sauron: to "lay bare" the thought of the other Ring users)   
      
   * I thought that in two (or three) confrontations with Gollum, Frodo   
   taps (or is helped by) the power of the Ring: probably already in the   
   marshes, then when he threatens Gollum at the Morannon (that he should   
   not let the thought of getting the Ring back grow in his mind), and   
   finally on Mt Doom.   
      
   regards   
    Geza   
      
   --   
                               Now come ye all,   
   who have courage and hope!  My call harken   
   to flight, to freedom       in far places!   
                                         Lays of Beleriand   
      
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    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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