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   Message 69,176 of 70,346   
   Michael Graf to All   
   Re: Declared Ringlords   
   03 Mar 13 22:07:13   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: degrafi@freenet.de   
      
   Hi!   
      
   Am 03.03.2013 20:20, schrieb Geza Giedke:   
      
   > while I agree that Frodo was not holding the Ringwraiths back at the   
   > Ford with the power of the Ring (I thought their reaction was surprise   
   > at his strength and courage to still defy them), I always thought that   
   > some of the power of the Ring *could* be tapped even when not worn:   
   >   
   > * Galadriel says that Frodo perceived her thoughts better than many   
   > others (and that was one of the main powers the Ring would give to   
   > Sauron: to "lay bare" the thought of the other Ring users)   
   >   
   > * I thought that in two (or three) confrontations with Gollum, Frodo   
   > taps (or is helped by) the power of the Ring: probably already in the   
   > marshes, then when he threatens Gollum at the Morannon (that he should   
   > not let the thought of getting the Ring back grow in his mind), and   
   > finally on Mt Doom.   
      
   The question is if it's Frodo wielding the ring or the ring wielding   
   Frodo. :-)   
   I think the ring way in some way enhances perception (thus Frodo was   
   able to see the normally hidden ring of Galadriel)   
   But it's a fact (or at least I can't remember anything like it) that   
   Frodo wasn't able to intentionally use the ring besides getting   
   invisible....which seems to be a basic feature of the ring (switching to   
   the "other world" would be a better description than "becoming invisible")   
      
   And anyway: if it wouldn't be necessary to wear such a thing of power on   
   your finger, Sauron and the Elves could have made a collar instead of a   
   ring. ;-)   
      
   And I still wonder how powerful the Nomenorians had been as they had   
   been able even to subdue a Sauron wielding his ring.   
      
   Bye   
      
   Michael   
      
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