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From: jon.lennart.beck.its.my.name@mail.its.in.danmark
"Julian Bradfield" skrev i meddelelsen
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> On 2013-03-13, Stan Brown wrote:
>> I don't think more than a very few of Sauron's troops felt actual
>> loyalty to him, the way that say Patton's troops did. Maybe I'm
>> reading too much into the Orcs' conversations that are recorded in
>> LotR, but I get the impression that all of them, except the very top
>> level, operated out of fear of torture more than any general
>> commitment to the cause.
> I don't know. I suppose Shagrat counts as top-level, but the "big
> slave-driving devil" in Mordor, was surely a company commander at
> best, and he seemed to be enjoying his job.
He was enjoying his job of bossing his underlings around. It doesn't
follow that he enjoyed being Sauron's underling or felt loyalty to him. He
was an orc, enjoying such suffering as he could inflict. As for Shagrat and
Gorbag, it seems clear to me that they feared and despised Sauron and the
Nazgūl. They obeyed partly out of fear of punishment, partly because they
feared Sauron's enemies more than they feared Sauron.
Corb.
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