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From: g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies
In message <51ffba89$0$8149$edfadb0f@dtext02.news.tele.dk>
Raven wrote:
> "Sandman" skrev i meddelelsen
> news:mr-BD21A7.11441431072013@News.Individual.NET...
>> Two Towers, The Departure of Boromir:
>>
>> ‘S is for Sauron,’ said Gimli. ‘That is easy to read.’
>> ‘Nay!’ said Legolas. ‘Sauron does not use the elf-runes.’
>> ‘Neither does he use his right name, nor permit it to be spelt or
>> spoken,’ said Aragorn.
>> Return of the King, The Black Gate Opens:
>> The Lieutenant of the Tower of Barad-dûr he was, and his name is
>> remembered in no tale; for he himself had forgotten it, and he said:
>> ‘I am the Mouth of Sauron.’
>> He always was a bit of a rebel, ey?
> A story-external explanation is of course that Tolkien made an
> inconsistency - goofed, forgetting the former passage when writing the
> latter and not noticing during revisions. My best guess of a partly
> story-internal explanation is that Sauron did indeed refuse the name Sauron
> ("the Abhorrent"), which was given him in abhorrence by the Elves. He would
> have disliked that mockery intensely. Some people do want to torture the
> World until the World fears, loves and admires them. What the Mouth said in
> Westron did not then include the name Sauron - but in the translation into
> English the name was used, to avoid unnecessary complications
> A wholly
> story-internal explanation is that whoever related the latter incident to
> Frodo had heard the Mouth using Sauron's preferred name but found that
> wholly inappropriate, and substituted Sauron's right name - as they saw it.
Maybe he was like Metatron, and his job title was translated for us so
no one would have to explain what the job title was.
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