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   Message 69,329 of 70,346   
   Wayne Brown to Paul S. Person   
   Re: [SPOILERS] The Hobbit: The Desolatio   
   30 Dec 13 22:12:14   
   
   From: fwbrown@bellsouth.net   
      
   On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 12:33:23 in article  Paul S. Person  wrote:   
   > On 15 Dec 2013 22:49:13 GMT, Sandman  wrote:   
   >   
   >>> > > Paul S. Person:   
   >>> > > Still, the wierd attempt to portray Sauron as a keyhole that   
   >>> > > looks something like the Eye was worth seeing, if only because   
   >>> > > it was so incredibly stupid.   
   >>> >   
   >>> > Sandman:   
   >>> > I didn't see the "keyhole" though... I saw it as a visual play   
   >>> > with the Eye.   
   >>>   
   >>> It has a knob at the top, a bulge at the side, and flares out at the   
   >>> bottom. But perhaps "keyhole" wasn't what they intended.   
   >>   
   >>I'm pretty sure that was the silhouette of Sauron himself in the darkness.   
   >>There were some flashing images and shapes, so we may not speak of the same   
   >>thing, but out of the darkness, at one point, there was a golde "slit" that   
   >>appeared, which made the darkness look very much like the Eye of Sauron,   
   >>only black with a flaming slit rather than flaming with a dark slit.   
   >>   
   >>The flaming slit approaches and turns out to be Saurons silhouette. Again,   
   >>maybe we're talking about different things, here, but we both should look a   
   >>bit closer next time, I think.   
   >>   
   >>It's too early to find any good screencaps of this, of course.   
   >   
   > Your description is just fine; but it looked to me like a keyhole at   
   > several points. As I said, this may not have been intentional;   
   > relating it to the Eye makes a lot more sense.   
      
   I finally saw the new Hobbit film myself yesterday and was looking   
   specifically for the "keyhole" in that sequence.  What I saw clearly   
   was intended to be the silhouette of Sauron wearing the same long cape   
   and high crowned helmet he was wearing in the battle with Isildur from   
   the FOTR film.  The overall shape of the figure did look a little like a   
   keyhole but the shape of the helmet with its spikes was quite distinctive.   
      
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