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   John to All   
   Re: Orthanc   
   04 Jun 14 16:15:47   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: j@j.j   
      
   "Bill O'Meally"  wrote in message   
   news:20140604144455964-omeallymdatgeemaildotcom@news.giganews.com...   
   > On 2014-06-04 16:19:11 +0000, Wayne Brown said:   
   >   
   >> Yet it still comes down to belief.  As far as I'm concerned the existence   
   >> of God (specifically, the Christian God) is a fact.   
   >   
   > The only fact is that Christians believe in the existence of God. The   
   > existence of God is a belief.   
   >   
   > --   
   > Bill O'Meally   
   >   
      
   Right on Bill - but be careful who you say anything like that to, there are   
   other religions who also believe in a Higher Power   
      
   Wow are we ever off topic here now!!!   
      
   John   
      
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