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   Wayne Brown to Sandman   
   Re: What the Hell Happened to Orlando Bl   
   06 Jun 14 15:13:11   
   
   From: fwbrown@bellsouth.net   
      
   On Fri, 06 Jun 2014 06:41:42 in article    
   Sandman  wrote:   
   > In article , Wayne Brown wrote:   
   >   
   >> > > > Sandman:   
   >> > > > That's the problem with you guys - you think there   
   >> > > > are only one way to do things the "right" way. That really   
   >> > > > bothers me, this elitism.   
   >> > >   
   >> > > Wayne Brown:   
   >> > > For me it's very simple; the only "right" way to do a story is   
   >> > > the way the author did it.   
   >> >   
   >> > Sandman:   
   >> > But most of the complaints about the movies are not about how the   
   >> > author did it, it's about your interpretation of what he wrote,   
   >> > which can differ wildly, even amongst pro-book people.   
   >>   
   >> Most of my complaints are like this:   
   >   
   > I wasn't in reference to your complaints, but rather "most of the   
   > complaints". See earlier in the thread for the exchange between me and Mike   
   > for examples.   
   >   
   >> When I see a Tolkien film for the first time (or any film based on a   
   >> book with which I'm extremely familiar) I want it to be follow the   
   >> book so closely that I'm able to predict which scene is coming next,   
   >> know exactly what will happen and who will be involved, and be able   
   >> to practically mouth their dialogue silently along with them.   
   >   
   > Wow, that sounds boring. So why would you even see the movie in the first   
   > place? Just read the book again if you want predictability.   
      
   I've read about a lot of interesting things in history books, but I'd   
   like to be able to look back into the past and see those things happening   
   with my own eyes.  In the same way, I'd like to be able to see the things   
   in Tolkien's "fictional history" happening with my own eyes.   
      
   As I've said before, part of my "suspension of disbelief" when reading   
   fiction is to pretend that I'm reading an eyewitness account of events   
   that "really happened."  So naturally I want to see visual depictions   
   matching the written description pretty closely; otherwise it's jarring   
   and destroys the illusion of seeing the "real events" as they happen.   
      
   --   
   F. Wayne Brown    
      
   Þæs ofereode, ðisses swa mæg.  ("That passed away, this also can.")   
      from "Deor," in the Exeter Book (folios 100r-100v)   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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