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   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article <2014091911114177189-omeallymdatgeemaildotcom@news.giganews.com>,   
   Bill O'Meally  wrote:   
      
   > On 2014-09-19 00:48:48 +0000, Bill O'Meally said:   
   >   
   >> On 2014-09-19 00:20:53 +0000, Stan Brown said:   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> We do know that the one from Fornost was lost at sea. I'm not sure   
   >>> what happened to the one at Weathertop.   
   >>   
   >> IIRC, Arvedui had both the stones from Fornost and Amon Sûl on his ship   
   >> when it went down in the Ice Bay  of Forochel.   
   >   
   > Ah, here it is. From LotR Appendix A:   
   >   
   > [Regarding Arvedui's ship being crushed by the ice and foundering in   
   > the Ice Bay of Forochel]   
   >   
   > "So perished Arvedui Last-king, and with him the palantíri were buried   
   > in the sea."   
   >   
   > And in a footnote:   
   >   
   > "These were the Stones of Annúminas and Amon Sûl. The only Stone left   
   > in the North was the one in the Tower on Emyn Beraid that looks towards   
   > the Gulf of Lune. That was guarded by the Elves, and though we never   
   > see it, it remained there, until Círdan put it aboard Elrond's ship   
   > when he left. But we are told that it was unlike the others and not in   
   > accord with them; it looked only to the Sea. Elendil set it there so   
   > that he could look back with 'straight sight' and see Eressëa in the   
   > vanished West; but the bent sea below covered Númenor for ever."   
   >   
   > It's presence and location was therefore well known to the Wise. I   
   > strongly suspect that Gandalf would have been privy to this information.   
      
   Of course, Gandalf only expresses uncertainty about the faith of the   
   stones of Gondor (lost in Anduin) and Anor (used by Denethor).   
      
      
      
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