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   Sandman to Bill O'Meally   
   Re: How many palantiri did Mordor have?   
   19 Sep 14 19:11:09   
   
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   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article <2014091913350176768-omeallymdatgeemaildotcom@news.giganews.com>,   
   Bill O'Meally  wrote:   
      
   > > Sandman:   
   > > While I disagree that this is what it "cleary means", it's not   
   > > impossible. Let's look at the data. There were once seven   
   > > palantir's in Middle Earth. In the northern kingdom we had the   
   > > Elendil stone, Amon Sul stone and Annumanias stone. The two latter   
   > > were lost at sea by Arvedui, and the Elendil stone sailed to the   
   > > west at the end of the third age.   
   >   
   > Come to think about it, wasn't the Stone at Emyn Beraid, by right,   
   > Aragorn's? Should that not have come into his inheritance just as   
   > the Orthanc Stone did, "in earnest of other things that shall be   
   > given back."? Why then did Cirdan put it on Elrond's ship into the   
   > West?   
      
   Tolkien wrote that after the fall of Elendil, the High Elves too back this   
   stone into their own care, and it was never again used by men, which is why   
   it was on the ship.   
      
   Aragorn, or rather the dunedain were the lawful masters of the stone, but   
   it was never used by men again. Elves pilgrimaged to the Tower Hill to gace   
   into it over the sea to the Undying Lands.   
      
      
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   Sandman[.net]   
      
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