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   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article <2014091915233169626-omeallymdatgeemaildotcom@news.giganews.com>,   
   Bill O'Meally  wrote:   
      
   > > > > While I disagree that this is what it "cleary means",   
   > > > > it's not impossible. Let's look at the data. There were once   
   > > > > seven palantir's in Middle Earth. In the northern kingdom we   
   > > > > had the Elendil stone, Amon Sul stone and Annumanias stone.   
   > > > > The two latter were lost at sea by Arvedui, and the Elendil   
   > > > > stone sailed to the west at the end of the third age.   
   > > >   
   > > > Bill O'Meally:   
   > > > Come to think about it, wasn't the Stone at Emyn Beraid, by   
   > > > right, Aragorn's? Should that not have come into his inheritance   
   > > > just as the Orthanc Stone did, "in earnest of other things that   
   > > > shall be given back."? Why then did Cirdan put it on Elrond's   
   > > > ship into the West?   
   > >   
   > > Sandman:   
   > > Tolkien wrote that after the fall of Elendil, the High Elves too   
   > > back this stone into their own care, and it was never again used   
   > > by men, which is why it was on the ship.   
   >   
   > > Aragorn, or rather the dunedain were the lawful masters of the   
   > > stone, but it was never used by men again. Elves pilgrimaged to   
   > > the Tower Hill to gace into it over the sea to the Undying Lands.   
   >   
   > Which begs the question, why did Elves traveling into the West need   
   > a Stone that could only look West?   
      
   Well, it's the other way around - Elves travelling west didn't want to   
   leave behind a stone that could watch upon them :)   
      
      
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