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   From: the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm   
      
   On 19 Sep 2014 15:06:06 GMT, Sandman wrote:   
   >   
   > In article , Stan Brown   
    wrote:   
   >   
   > > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 20:40:36 +0000 (UTC), Steve Morrison wrote:   
   > >> So I noticed something odd the last time I read through LotR. When   
   > >> Gandalf is explaining the palantíri to Pippin, he says this:   
   > >>   
   > >>   ?Who knows where the lost Stones of Arnor and Gondor now lie,   
   > >>   buried, or drowned deep? But one at least Sauron must have   
   > >>   obtained and mastered to his purposes. I guess that it was the   
   > >>   Ithil-stone, for he took Minas Ithil long ago and turned it   
   > >>   into an evil place: Minas Morgul, it has become.   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > > Tolkien explains in a letter somewhere that when Gandalf says "I   
   > > guess" that Gollum had the One Ring, what he really means is "I   
   > > deduce".  I don't think there's any doubt that Sauron's Palantír was   
   > > the one from Minas Ithil.   
   > >   
   > > We do know that the one from Fornost was lost at sea. I'm not sure   
   > > what happened to the one at Weathertop.   
   >   
   > Same faith, both were on the same ship.   
      
   Faith??? Did you mean "fate"?   
      
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