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   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article , Stan Brown wrote:   
      
   > > > > Steve Morrison:   
   > > > > So I noticed something odd the last time I read through LotR.   
   > > > > When Gandalf is explaining the palantíri to Pippin, he says   
   > > > > this:   
   > > >   
   > > > > ?Who knows where the lost Stones of Arnor and Gondor now lie,   
   > > > > buried, or drowned deep? But one at least Sauron must have   
   > > > > obtained and mastered to his purposes. I guess that it was the   
   > > > > Ithil-stone, for he took Minas Ithil long ago and turned it   
   > > > > into an evil place: Minas Morgul, it has become.   
   > > >   
   > > > Stan Brown:   
   > > > Tolkien explains in a letter somewhere that when Gandalf says "I   
   > > > guess" that Gollum had the One Ring, what he really means is "I   
   > > > deduce". I don't think there's any doubt that Sauron's Palantír   
   > > > was the one from Minas Ithil.   
   > >   
   > > > We do know that the one from Fornost was lost at sea. I'm not   
   > > > sure what happened to the one at Weathertop.   
   > >   
   > > Sandman:   
   > > Same faith, both were on the same ship.   
   >   
   > Faith??? Did you mean "fate"?   
      
   Haha, oops :)   
      
      
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