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   From: mmikeda@erols.com   
      
   Thomas Koenig  wrote in   
   news:m04m5t$kub$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de:   
      
   > Bill O'Meally  schrieb:   
   >   
   >> Gandalf tells Frodo in 'Shadow of the Past' that Sauron had   
   >> suspected the Elves destroyed the One Ring, which seems absurd   
   >> to me. How would Gandalf know this, or even think this?   
   >   
   > I sometimes suspect that the knowledge that the destruction of   
   > the One Ring would mean the immediate downfall of Sauron only   
   > came into the book later.  If Frodo knew this when he departed   
   > the Company for Mordor, it is not mentioned in the books.  My   
   > hunch is that Gandalf may have learned about this during his   
   > "converstion" to Gandalf the White.   
      
   At the Council of Elrond, after Elrond mentions his belief that the   
   destruction of the One Ring would also cause the failure of the   
   Three, Glorfindel then says "Yet all the Elves are willing to endure   
   this chance, if by it the power of Sauron may be broken and the fear   
   of his dominion be taken away for ever."   
      
   Which does at least seem to be equating the destruction of the One   
   Ring with the downfall of Sauron.   
      
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