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   From: degrafi@freenet.de   
      
   Hi!   
      
   Am 28.09.2014 20:09, schrieb Michael Ikeda:   
   > Bill O'Meally  wrote in   
   > news:2014092809544980788-omeallymdatgeemaildotcom@news.giganews.com   
   > :   
   >   
   >> On 2014-09-27 12:40:17 +0000, Lewis said:   
   >>   
   >>> Okay, so one time? In band camp? Bill O'Meally  was   
   >>> all, like:   
   >>>   
   >>>> But when he was able to reincarnate he must have realized it   
   >>>> was not destroyed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why?   
   >>   
   >> Because the greater part of his native strength was put into the   
   >> Ring. Who would know the consequences of its destruction more   
   >> than Sauron himself? Elrond clearly knew it when he advised   
   >> Isildur to cast it into the Fire. Had the Ring been destroyed   
   >> after his downfall during the Last Alliance, he would have   
   >> remained a shadow of malice, unable to recover. The mere fact   
   >> that he was able to reincarnate attests to the fact that the   
   >> Ring had not been destroyed.   
   >   
   > Sauron probably assumed that the long delay before he was able to   
   > reincarnate was due to the Ring being destroyed.   
   But as Bill stated: Sauron knew the features if his ring very well, and   
   all the wise agreed in the fact that he would be utterly destroyed,   
   remaining 'a shadow of malice' in case of the destruction of the ring.   
   In one point you may be right: after the downfall of Numenor it took him   
   a lot of time to 'create a new bodily existence'. Before he might not   
   have known what it feels like to be stripped off his body, so he might   
   have thought that his reduced power and the loss of his form had been   
   causd by the destruction of the ring, mainly because his 'senses' had   
   been affected as well, so he could not feel the presence of the ring.   
   But after regaining strength I guess he certainly knew what was going on.   
   BTW: How could Sauron be definitely defeated without having the ring? :-)   
      
   Michael   
      
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