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   From: clams_canino@earthdink.net   
      
   "Wayne Brown"  wrote in message   
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   > I didn't say he was asked about a direct quotation, I said he was asked   
   > about the source of his information for a statement he made.  A simple   
   > answer something like, "That's the way I see it, and I don't remember   
   > whether I saw it spelled out exactly that way in either the books or the   
   > films" would have sufficed, without impugning the motives of the person   
   > who asked the question.   
      
   Unfortunately you can't really source your own formed *opinion* - and that's   
   all he actually expressed. It was Paul that said that his opinion sounded   
   like a movie quote (it wasn't) and opened a can of worms.   
   I think we (mostly) all feel that men are easily corrupted in Tolkiens   
   world. At least much more so than elves.   
      
   As Bill O'Meally just said:   
   "I don't think it was because Men could or could not detect the danger.   
   Tolkien makes it pretty clear that Men were more easily corrupted than   
   Elves."   
      
   Paul's original quote that I took issue with:   
   "Is this "men who are so easily corrupted?" from the book? Or is it   
   just an abomination of PJ & accomplices? I ask because it sounds an   
   awful lot like a quote from Galadriel's voiceover at the start of the   
   first /LOTR/ movie."   
      
   I'll note that "men who are so easily corrupted" was nothing like any quote   
   from any movie and was just Sir Taxalot's opinion as expressed. There is   
   (IMHO) a bit of an accusative tone to the above question as Paul phrased it.   
   He also made it a *closed* question, either the book *or* P.Jackson and   
   friends. Fact is, that it was neither.   
   The question made the (incorrect) assumption that it was a quote of some   
   sort and almost demanded to know "from which" it came.   
      
   You can't build a productive dialogue on a faulty premise.  :)   
      
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