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   From: mr@sandman.net   
      
   In article , Morgoth's Curse wrote:   
      
   > > > > Sandman:   
   > > > > While I disagree that this is what it "cleary means",   
   > > > > it's not impossible. Let's look at the data. There were once   
   > > > > seven palantir's in Middle Earth. In the northern kingdom we   
   > > > > had the Elendil stone, Amon Sul stone and Annumanias stone.   
   > > > > The two latter were lost at sea by Arvedui, and the Elendil   
   > > > > stone sailed to the west at the end of the third age.   
   > > >   
   > > > Bill O'Meally:   
   > > > Come to think about it, wasn't the Stone at Emyn Beraid, by   
   > > > right, Aragorn's? Should that not have come into his inheritance   
   > > > just as the Orthanc Stone did, "in earnest of other things that   
   > > > shall be given back."? Why then did Cirdan put it on Elrond's   
   > > > ship into the West?   
   > >   
   > > Sandman:   
   > > Tolkien wrote that after the fall of Elendil, the High Elves too   
   > > back this stone into their own care, and it was never again used   
   > > by men, which is why it was on the ship.   
   >   
   > > Aragorn, or rather the dunedain were the lawful masters of the   
   > > stone, but it was never used by men again. Elves pilgrimaged to   
   > > the Tower Hill to gace into it over the sea to the Undying Lands.   
   >   
   > Do you have a citation for this? I cannot find it anywhere in   
   > Unfinished Tales.   
      
   Well the elves led by Gildor, that Frodo, Sam and Pippin meet in the Shire   
   when they just leave for their journey are on their way back from the Tower   
   Hills for this very purpose. It isn't explicitly stated in the book, but   
   Tolkien mentions it in The Road Goes Ever On:   
      
    "No doubt Gildor and his companions (Vol. I, Chap. 3), since they appear   
    to have been going eastward, were Elves living in or near Rivendell   
    returning from the palantir of the Tower Hills."   
      
      
      
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