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   Barry Schwarz to the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm   
   Re: Why must the ring stay in Middle Ear   
   04 Jun 15 01:06:21   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: schwarzb@dqel.com   
      
   On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 22:29:07 -0400, Stan Brown   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:30:38 -0700, Barry Schwarz wrote:   
   >> And what of the fall of Númenor?  While the attitude of many had   
   >> changed long before Ar-Pharazôn, surely the Valar knew that Sauron had   
   >> instigated the final act of rebellion.  And still they did nothing.   
   >   
   >"Laid down their Guardianship and called upon the One", the Appendix   
   >says. They knew they were unable to deal with this crisis, so they   
   >referred to the Home Office for orders and assistance.   
      
   The Elves (and Men) had no chance against a single Vala in the First   
   Age. Yet the entire host of Ainur could not deal with a bunch of ships   
   sitting off their coast?  Surely Ulmo and Manwe could pre-create the   
   Spanish Armada or Mongolian invasion fleet destructions.   
      
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