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|    Jerry Friedman to Paul S. Person    |
|    Re: The End of the Fourth Age    |
|    12 Aug 15 22:14:26    |
      XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien       From: jerry_friedman@yahoo.com              On 8/12/15 5:06 PM, Paul S. Person wrote:       > As it happens, I am re-reading /THOTH/ and, on page 447/448 (first       > volume), Rateliff discusses JRRT's plans for /The Lost Road/.       >       > As I think is consistent with the parts he completed, he planned to       > start in the present and then move backwards through time. This, then,       > should not be controversial.       >       > What is interesting is that (p 448) JRRT planned to include episodes       > from "periods known to archaeology but for which all legends and       > stories have been lost the Ice Age, the era of Paleolithic       > cave-paintings). and finally beyond, into his own imagined prehistory       > (Beleriand and finally Numinor)".       >       > Which would seem to imply that the Fourth Age /preceded the       > Paleolothic/ (that is, the Old Stone Age). Since the culture of /LOTR/       > is, surely, far past that of any Stone Age, a considerable decline       > must have occurred from the Fourth Age to the Paleolithic.       >       > It looks like my suggestion, that the Fourth Age was ended by a Giant       > Space Rock that changed /everything/, may not have been so completely       > off-base as may have appeared when I proposed it.              It looked completely on-base to me. I think it was always clear that       technology had collapsed sometime after /LotR/. Paul Kocher suggested       in /Master of Middle-Earth/ that /TH/ and /LOTR/ might have taken place       in an interglacial period, with the cold lingering at Forochel, but your       quotation suggests it was even older.              --       Jerry Friedman              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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