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   From: jerry_friedman@yahoo.com   
      
   On 1/3/16 11:21 AM, Paul S. Person wrote:   
   > On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 09:11:47 +0000 (UTC), Louis Epstein   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> In alt.fan.tolkien Paul S. Person  wrote:   
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   >   
   >>> The Preface also suggests at least two versions of the Red Book were   
   >>> known to JRRT. And that many more existed.   
   >>   
   >> My reading is that he had a later one that referred to earlier ones.   
   >   
   > I just reread it, and it still reads, to me, like a survey of source   
   > documents: this one was found here and has this, that one was found   
   > there and has that, etc, etc.   
   >   
   > Also, it mentions several separate works not in any edition of the Red   
   > Book as such, from which (presumably) the info on pipeweed, on old   
   > Hobbit terms and their relation to Rohirric,   
      
   I agree that those were in treatises by Merry.  Maybe they survived   
   separately, or maybe they or information in them was added to the Red Book.   
      
   > the tale of Aragorn and Arwen,   
      
   In Findegil's copy of the Thain's copy of the Red Book.   
      
   > the Tale of Years,   
      
   I don't think it's clear whether that was originally in a copy of the   
   Red Book or in a separate book.   
      
   > the calendrical information,   
      
   Presumably from another treatise by Merry.   
      
   > and the /Akallabeth/ were derived.   
      
   I imagine the /Akallabeth/ was in Bilbo's /Translations from the   
   Elvish/, three volumes that went with the original Red Book and survived   
   in Findegil's copy of the Thain's Book.   
      
   > Were these all in your "later one" as well?   
      
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