XPost: rec.arts.drwho, alt.fan.douglas-adams   
   From: solar.penguin@gmail.com   
      
   On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 18:20:18 -0700, Tim Bruening wrote...   
      
   > On Saturday, August 12, 2017 at 3:33:30 PM UTC-7, solar penguin wrote:   
   >> On Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:47:47 -0700, Tim Bruening wrote...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> > This is the only reason why we are even discussing "Trust Me"!  I was   
   >> > therefore proposing a way for "Trust Me"   
   >> > to be stitched into the Whoiverse.   
   >>   
   >> It's not a very satisfying way of stitching them together, because it   
   >> lessens both of them.  It denies Trust Me a proper conclusion to its   
   >> own story, and confuses and alienates all those Whovians who haven't   
   >> been following the medical drama.  Is that really what you want?   
   >>   
   >> Don't get me wrong.  I love merging universes.  (After all, I'm the   
   >> crackpot who thinks The Silmarillion and The Hitchhiker's Guide To The   
   >> Galaxy take place in the same universe!)  But if you're going to do it,   
   >> you need to do it in a way that enhances them, not harms them.   
   >   
   > What kind of mergence would enhance both shows?   
      
   Something that lets both shows throw new light on each other, adding to   
   our understanding of their universe(s).   
      
   I mentioned The Silmarillion and Hitchhikers above, so let's take that as   
   an example...   
      
   Eru Ilúvatar told the Ainur to create the Earth. / Deep Thought told the   
   Magratheans to create the Earth.   
      
   While they created it, the sky was in total darkness, not even any   
   stars.  /  While they created it, the planet was in the darkness of a   
   hyperspace chamber inside Magrathea.   
      
   Later the Earth was just lit by stars before the sun or moon finally   
   arrived.  /  Later the Earth was just lit by stars as it was towed   
   through the galaxy to its position in our solar system.   
      
   The first human-like people on the Earth were Elves, with the real humans   
   created separately later.  /  The first human-like people on the Earth   
   were Neanderthals, with the real humans arriving later in their B-Ark.   
      
   See?  These are clearly the same events being told from two different   
   perspectives.   
      
   But... Eru knew the humans would appear.  That was all part of His plan.   
   Had Deep Thought planned for the arrival of the arrival of the B-Ark?  If   
   so, Ford and Arthur must've been just plain wrong when they speculated   
   that the human's arrival had damaged the program to find the Ultimate   
   Question.   
      
   How can that be?  Perhaps the Question wasn't supposed to be found by   
   Humans and/or Elves in the first place, but by something else, such as   
   the dolphins.  (Remember that if someone knows the Question and Answer,   
   the universe will end and be replaced by a different, weirder one.  And   
   in So Long And Thanks For All The Fish, the dolphins were responsible for   
   replacing the universe with a different one in which the Earth wasn't   
   destroyed.  Now we know how they did it!)   
      
   Meanwhile, this helps fix one of the biggest problems with The   
   Silmarillion: it's propaganda.  The characters are all supposed to be the   
   greatest, wisest, noblest, most intelligent, most honorable, most noble,   
   best looking, best warriors, best rulers, etc. even when their actions   
   say otherwise.  There are no ordinary, average people for us to relate to.   
      
   Knowing the Elves are all apemen and the humans are secretly descended   
   from telephone sanitisers deflates a lot of that pomposity, making the   
   story a lot more fun!   
      
   See?   
      
   OK, Tim, now ask yourself what can Trust Me tell us about the Whoniverse,   
   and what what can Doctor Who tell us about the world of Trust Me?  Use   
   that as your starting point...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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