XPost: rec.arts.drwho, alt.fan.douglas-adams   
   From: solar.penguin@gmail.com   
      
   On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:48:09 +0100, Agamemnon wrote...   
      
   > On 13/08/2017 19:59, solar penguin wrote:   
   >> On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 12:52:07 +0100, Angrymadman wrote...   
   >>   
   >>> On 13/08/2017 11:42, solar penguin wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I mentioned The Silmarillion and Hitchhikers above, so let's take   
   >>>> that as an example...   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Eru Ilúvatar told the Ainur to create the Earth. / Deep Thought told   
   >>>> the Magratheans to create the Earth.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> While they created it, the sky was in total darkness, not even any   
   >>>> stars.  /  While they created it, the planet was in the darkness of a   
   >>>> hyperspace chamber inside Magrathea.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Later the Earth was just lit by stars before the sun or moon finally   
   >>>> arrived.  /  Later the Earth was just lit by stars as it was towed   
   >>>> through the galaxy to its position in our solar system.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The first human-like people on the Earth were Elves, with the real   
   >>>> humans created separately later.  /  The first human-like people on   
   >>>> the Earth were Neanderthals, with the real humans arriving later in   
   >>>> their B-Ark.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> See?  These are clearly the same events being told from two different   
   >>>> perspectives.   
   >>>   
   >>> No they are not. Who created Ilúvatar and for what purpose? We know   
   >>> who/what Deep Thought was created by and why.   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> Of course the in-universe chroniclers thought that Ilúvatar had no   
   >> creator.  That doesn't necessarily mean they were right.  The whole   
   >> point of playing at merging universes is to learn new things that you   
   >> could never learn just from studying one set of stories alone.   
   >>   
   >>   
   > You've not merged any universes. All you've done is tried to retcon one   
   > universe to fit into the other and it doesn't work. You need to create a   
   > bridging story.   
   >   
      
   Ah, sorry.  That was a poor choice of words on my part.  No wonder you   
   misunderstood what I was trying to do.   
      
   In the words "playing at merging universes" above, the verb is "playing",   
   that's what I'm trying to do.  The word "merging" is an adjective   
   describing a property of the universes.   
      
   I'm not actively merging two universes, aggressively forcing them   
   together and shaping them to my will.  (That might be in keeping with the   
   macho alpha-male you imagine yourself to be, but it's really not my   
   style.)  Instead, I'm just trying to play around with ideas, showing that   
   the stories could already take place in the same universe, so there's no   
   need to force them together.   
      
   Perhaps if I'd said, "playing at merged universes," instead, we could've   
   avoided this confusion.  Sorry about that.   
      
   Anyway. since the rest of your post was just continuing this   
   misunderstanding about me actively merging universes, it's probably best   
   if I just snip it, rather than waste everyone's time going through it   
   point by point.   
      
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