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   Message 70,107 of 70,346   
   Louis Epstein to Julian Bradfield   
   Re: Tolkien Censorship at Wikipedia   
   08 Feb 22 01:32:07   
   
   XPost: rec.arts.books.tolkien   
   From: le@top.put.com   
      
   In rec.arts.books.tolkien Julian Bradfield  wrote:   
   > On 2022-02-07, Paul S Person  wrote:   
   >> That is all very well but, as Louis Epstein points out in his reply,   
   >> both the book and the film are public works, and comparing two public   
   >> works which millions of people have experienced is not a form of   
   >> crackpottery.   
   >   
   > But it is the word of a random on the internet, which can only be   
   > checked by re-doing the research oneself.   
   > Rightly or wrongly, Wikipedia thinks that material published by real   
   > publishers is more likely to be accurate than randoms on the net.   
      
   And when it is wrong,it needs to be regularly denounced.   
      
   >> Not to mention the possibility that such comparisons have been   
   >> published. Or that anyone who has experienced both can point them out.   
   >   
   > If they have been published, there's a source.   
   >   
   >> Which gets us to another of his points: take the prohibition to   
   >> extremes and stating "grass is green" would be prohibited because it   
   >> is "original research". Common knowledge is, well, /common/.   
   >   
   > It is not hard to find a published reference for the greenness of   
   > grass.   
      
   However,it is profoundly foolish to treat a particular   
   published reference as conferring validity on a ubiquituously   
   known fact.   
      
   > There's nothing specific to Wikipedia about this policy - all   
   > reputable encyclopaedias do the same. Any article considered by   
   > Britannica must have a full list of sources so that the research   
   > editor can check the accuracy of the article.   
   >   
   > Is Britannica a "pile of vomit" too, because it doesn't commission   
   > original research?   
      
   Britannica has signed articles on a variety of topics   
   that represent the writer's scholarship.   
      
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