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   From: psperson@old.netcom.invalid   
      
   On 7 Jan 2026 18:01:15 GMT, Stephan Seitz    
   wrote:   
      
   >In rec.arts.books.tolkien Paul S Person  wrote:   
   >> Well, have you considered the possibility that Frodo, having lost a   
   >> finger, is in shock and not thinking clearly? And reacting to Sam the   
   >   
   >I doubt it. Frodo was awake hours before Sam woke up, but slept again.   
   >Nothing indicates that he was in anyway bewildered. Sam showed more   
   >signs than Frodo.   
      
   You snipped this:   
      
   >Louis Epstein  quotes and asks:   
   >>Both of them refer to Frodo speaking to Sam on the slopes of Orodruin   
   >>after the collapse of Barad-dur...there would not be confusion over whether   
   >>this is a repetition of the exact same speech if there were any clear   
   >>distinction.   
      
   It has been a long time since I read the book, but am I really to   
   understand that Frodo and Sam took hours-long naps after the Ring went   
   into the Cracks of Doom while waiting for the Eagles?   
      
   And I didn't say "bewildered". I said "in shock". Losing a finger by   
   having it bitten off by Gollum tends to do that to people.   
      
   Very strange. Perhaps, the next time I have a pause in my eBook   
   reading, it would be time to reread (some of) JRRT.   
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