XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:55:10 -0600, Free Lunch wrote:   
      
   >On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:46:46 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 18:43:50 -0600, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>.   
   >>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:35:17 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 09:11:56 +1100, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>>.   
   >>>>>On 01-November-2014 7:05 AM, The.W@tcher wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> For years atheists have demanded what they call "evidence" of God's   
   existence,   
   >>>>>> when what they really have been demanding is proof. When presented with   
   evidence   
   >>>>>> of various types they dishonestly have denied the fact that it is   
   evidence,   
   >>>>>> enjoying the luxury of indulging themselves in their own blatant   
   dishonesty.   
   >>>>>> Their constant demand for proof which they dishonestly refer to as   
   evidence   
   >>>>>> makes it clear that they believe there should be some sort of proof of   
   God's   
   >>>>>> existence available to humans if he does indeed exist.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>true!   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> In the not too distant past atheists in these news groups have   
   experienced their   
   >>>>>> complete and total ruination which they encountered due to the challenge   
   >>>>>> presented to them by mur@.not The challenge was a simple one that they   
   should be   
   >>>>>> able to address and overcome with ease, yet in reality none of them   
   could   
   >>>>>> address it at all much less overcome it. The challenge that defeated   
   them so   
   >>>>>> entirely was simply for them to try to explain what sort of "evidence"   
   they   
   >>>>>> think there should be, where they think it should be, and why they   
   think God   
   >>>>>> should make it available to humans if he does exist. That simple   
   challenge   
   >>>>>> resulted in their total ruination by exposing the fact that they don't   
   have the   
   >>>>>> slightest idea what sort of proof God should provide us with, much less   
   where he   
   >>>>>> should make it available. In the related followup thread "Why atheists   
   are   
   >>>>>> clueless about the evidence aspect." the resulting exposure of their   
   >>>>>> cluelessness is examined and it's made clear that no one including the   
   atheists   
   >>>>>> themselves can suggest why any such proof should be available to   
   humans. That   
   >>>>>> failure makes it clear that they have been extreme fools all these   
   years for   
   >>>>>> demanding something we now see there's no reason should be available   
   for them to   
   >>>>>> be presented with.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>yes, they cannot explain why there should be any proof   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Apparently they can't even make an attempt. They've certainly shown   
   that   
   >>>>they don't have any idea what they thought they were trying to talk about.   
   It   
   >>>>seems that they're now aware of their position since they don't try to   
   defend   
   >>>>themselves or their positon any more.   
   >>>   
   >>>Go preach your religious nonsense elsewhere. You both know that you have   
   >>>no evidence to support any claims about gods.   
   >>   
   >> You blatantly lie that there's no evidence even though we ONLY have   
   evidence   
   >>that God does exist, and there is NO evidence he does not.   
   >   
   >You _know_ that you have no evidence. You know it and lie about it.   
      
    In contrast to that blatant lie we ONLY have evidence that God DOES exist,   
   while there's no evidence at all that he does not. You lie that there is none   
   because you don't like what there is, but lying that it doesn't exist is just   
   repeating a contemptible lie when admitting it exists and being critical of its   
   value would be an entirely different thing. It would also be much less   
   contemptible since it would not be a blatant lie. Being in that position alone   
   is bad enough, but yours is even worse than just that. By lying that there's no   
   evidence you make it known that you think there should be some sort of proof of   
   God's existence if he does exist, yet as you ALL have proven not a single one   
   of   
   you has any idea what sort of evidencen you think should be where or why you   
   think it should be there if God does exist.   
      
   >You   
   >invent a god that you need to lie about. What a pitiable creature you   
   >are.   
   >   
   >>You make it clear you   
   >>will not refer to the evidence that exists as evidence.   
   >   
   >I will accept all evidence. I will not accept your intentional false   
   >claims   
      
    Like what?   
      
   >because we both know they are not evidence.   
   >   
   >>You make it clear that   
   >>you believe if God does exist, that YOU believe there should be stronger   
   >>evidence of his existence. YOU make it clear you believe that if God does   
   exist   
   >>there should be some sort of proof that he exists, yet you lie about that. So   
   >>you lie that there is no evidence, you lie that you think there should be   
   proof   
   >>of it if God does exist, but you don't have the slightest clue what sort of   
   >>proof you think there should be, or where you think it should be, or why you   
   >>think it should be available to humans. THAT is the amusing though pathetic   
   >>position you and your fellow atheists ARE IN. You are also in the position of   
   >>being ashamed of being in that position and wanting to deny it, though you   
   will   
   >>almost certainly never make any attempt to move out of that position you're   
   >>ashamed of being in. LOL!!! Again just describing the position you people   
   are in   
   >>is HILARIOUS!   
   >   
   >You worship the lies you tell, nothing else.   
      
    You put all your faith in a possibility you can't support, nothing else.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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