XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 18:31:26 -0600, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   .   
   >On Tue, 11 Nov 2014 19:21:30 -0500, Ralph  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 11/11/2014 6:58 PM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>> On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:45:48 -0600, Free Lunch lied blatantly:   
   >>> .   
   >>>> On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:46:32 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2014, Free Lunch provided clear evidence of his lies:   
   >>>>> .   
   >>>>>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2014 19:35:10 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 08:31:10 -0500, Free Lunch lied blatantly:   
   >>>>>>> .   
   >>>>>>>> On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 09:11:56 +1100, felix_unger    
   wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>> On 01-November-2014 7:05 AM, The.W@tcher wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> For years atheists have demanded what they call "evidence" of God's   
   existence,   
   >>>>>>>>>> when what they really have been demanding is proof. When presented   
   with evidence   
   >>>>>>>>>> of various types they dishonestly have denied the fact that it is   
   evidence,   
   >>>>>>>>>> enjoying the luxury of indulging themselves in their own blatant   
   dishonesty.   
   >>>>>>>>>> Their constant demand for proof which they dishonestly refer to as   
   evidence   
   >>>>>>>>>> makes it clear that they believe there should be some sort of proof   
   of God's   
   >>>>>>>>>> existence available to humans if he does indeed exist.   
   >>>>>>>>> true!   
   >>>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>>> In the not too distant past atheists in these news groups have   
   experienced their   
   >>>>>>>>>> complete and total ruination which they encountered due to the   
   challenge   
   >>>>>>>>>> presented to them by mur@.not The challenge was a simple one that   
   they should be   
   >>>>>>>>>> able to address and overcome with ease, yet in reality none of them   
   could   
   >>>>>>>>>> address it at all much less overcome it. The challenge that   
   defeated them so   
   >>>>>>>>>> entirely was simply for them to try to explain what sort of   
   "evidence" they   
   >>>>>>>>>> think there should be, where they think it should be, and why they   
   think God   
   >>>>>>>>>> should make it available to humans if he does exist. That simple   
   challenge   
   >>>>>>>>>> resulted in their total ruination by exposing the fact that they   
   don't have the   
   >>>>>>>>>> slightest idea what sort of proof God should provide us with, much   
   less where he   
   >>>>>>>>>> should make it available. In the related followup thread "Why   
   atheists are   
   >>>>>>>>>> clueless about the evidence aspect." the resulting exposure of their   
   >>>>>>>>>> cluelessness is examined and it's made clear that no one including   
   the atheists   
   >>>>>>>>>> themselves can suggest why any such proof should be available to   
   humans. That   
   >>>>>>>>>> failure makes it clear that they have been extreme fools all these   
   years for   
   >>>>>>>>>> demanding something we now see there's no reason should be   
   available for them to   
   >>>>>>>>>> be presented with.   
   >>>>>>>>> yes, they cannot explain why there should be any proof   
   >>>>>>>> Could you please make an effort not to carelessly conflate "proof" and   
   >>>>>>>> "evidence".   
      
   >>>>>>>     There's plenty of evidence.   
      
   >>>>>> None.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Probably every person who believes God exists   
   >>>>>>> has experienced personal evidence in their own lives.   
      
   >>>>>> No.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> They don't mention it much   
   >>>>>>> to atheists since atheists deny that anything is evidence. Atheists   
   are the most   
   >>>>>>> clueless, and they take the easiest road possible even though that road   
   >>>>>>> NECESSARILY involves being very comfortable with blatant dishonesty.   
   Which   
   >>>>>>> brings us back to the consistent FACT that atheists ARE EVIDENCE of   
   God's   
   >>>>>>> existence by being evidence that Satan is having influence on human   
   minds.   
   >>>>>> Tell us about the alleged evidence you know you have.   
   >>>>>     LOL. Why would I insult God if he has helped me, by telling someone   
   who I   
   >>>>> know in advance could not only never appreciate it but would be   
   insulting of the   
   >>>>> possibility? The fact that nothing in your life has ever given you   
   reason to   
   >>>>> consider the possibility that God exists is from my pov evidence that he   
   does,   
   >>>>> since there's plenty in some people's lives but none in people he would   
   have no   
   >>>>> reason to help, like you. I will say that what makes it seem most likely   
   in day   
   >>>>> to day life is not so much the things that happen, as the WAY they   
   happen. The   
   >>>>> timing of things is not the only thing, but the biggest thing.   
      
   >>>> So you know you are bullshitting   
      
   >>>      I know you're blatantly lying. What the FUCK do you think you can   
   gain by   
   >>> telling blatant lies like that you stupid moron, do you have any idea at   
   all. By   
   >>> telling such stupid blatant lies that there's no reason for anyone to ever   
   tell,   
   >>> YOU are evidence of Satan influencing stupid human minds. Whether he   
   exists or   
   >>> not YOU and your stupidly blatant lies are evidence that he does.   
   >>>   
   >>>      As I pointed out I knew in advance that you would be too stupid to   
   >>> appreciate any particular examples, but you can't appreciate a simple basic   
   >>> concept which is even more stupid than I anticipated. I do tend to   
   overestimate   
   >>> people though, even when I do expect nothing but remarkable stupidity out   
   of   
   >>> them.   
   >>>   
   >>>> and have decided to double down on your own dishonesty.   
   >>>      Do you have any idea at all what you think you're trying to talk   
   about?   
   >>>   
   >>>> Clearly you have invented a very disgusting god to worship.   
      
   >>>      By your own behavior it appears that a far more disgusting beast is   
   having   
   >>> influence on what you think, what you can't think, and what you do. The   
   Bible IS   
   >>> EVIDENCE of that, as you are yourself. YOU are evidence that what is   
   warned of   
   >>> in the Bible is correct. So as you try to persuade people that the Bible   
   is not   
   >>> evidence of God's existence, you yourself are evidence that it is.   
   HILARIOUS!!!   
   >>>   
   >>>>>>>> Religions go out of their way to make excuses for why nothing they   
   teach   
   >>>>>>>> about gods is supported by evidence.   
      
   >>>>>>>     That's a blatant lie from my pov, since I'm not aware of any. Try   
   backing   
   >>>>>>> your claim up with evidence that you're not lying.   
      
   >>>>>> There is no evidence to support any gods. You've made it absolutely   
   >>>>>> clear that you realize that but are too dishonest to acknowledge it.   
      
   >>>>>     LOL!!! You just provided clear evidence that you DID lie, in   
   response to a   
   >>>>> challenge to provide evidence that you did not.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> Why should anyone believe a   
   >>>>>>>> religious teacher who spends all his time justifying why he teaches   
   >>>>>>>> something that he has no evidence for?   
      
   >>>>>>>     You're trying to "teach" people now. Provide your evidence that any   
   >>>>>>> religious teacher "spends all his time justifying why he teaches   
   something that   
   >>>>>>> he has no evidence for." If you can provide that evidence then we can   
   take it   
      
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