XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:13:07 +0100, Chicken Runz wrote:   
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   >"Ralph"  skrev i meddelelsen   
   >news:PeqdnUTIspqeNP_JnZ2dnUVZ5gGdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >   
   >(snip)   
   >   
   >> It is to you. In real life....not so much.   
   >   
   >In a nutshell: If somebody believes in the existence of X, then that belief   
   >in itself is evidence of the existence of X, according to felix_unger. The   
   >argument is that nobody would believe in anything if there was no evidence.   
      
       That's one of the basic starting lines you people can't get as "far" as.   
      
   >And when billions believe in various gods, then that is very strong   
   >evidence.   
      
       It's very strong evidence that there is evidence, whether the belief is   
   correct or not. That's a variation on the same basic starting line mentioned   
   above that you people can't get as "far" as. But then when you can't get as   
   "far" as the starting line of an aspect you can't be expected to be able to   
   realistically consider any details about it either, and so far it seems clear   
   that you can't.   
      
   >I took it one step further   
      
       Probably not, since you could never get to the starting line to begin with.   
      
   >and claimed that my belief, that gods   
   >do not exist, therefor must be evidence for the non-existence of gods.   
      
       As I pointed out above the evidence provided by the belief is that there is   
   evidence for it, and the evidence that God exists has been pointed out for you   
   people countless times. In response you people dishonestly deny that it's   
   evidence, usually going on to even more dishonestly insist that none was ever   
   provided at all. Now that I've explained that for you though you can't   
   comprehend, this brings us to another challenge for you that will defeat you   
   and   
   all atheists so entirely that you can't even attempt to meet it.   
      
   Since the belief of billions that God does exist is evidence that there IS   
   evidence of his existence, try to provide the evidence that supposedly exists   
   that God does not exist because of the belief some people have that he does   
   not.   
      
   >Seems pretty straight foreward, don't you think?   
      
       What you've shown is that you don't understand the basics of the situation.   
   You've show that you STILL haven't gotten as "far" as the starting line.   
      
   >But apparently I'm the stupid one, with no common sense.   
      
       You've shown it by not understanding what the belief of billions is   
   actually   
   evidence for, which again is that there IS evidence. You will now show it again   
   by not being able to provide any evidence that God does not exist, showing that   
   the two situations you futiley tried to compare are not similar. So yes you've   
   made it apparent that you're the stupid one with no common sense, and the fact   
   that I help you make it clear for people to enjoy appreciating you being in   
   that   
   position is why you cowardly killfiled me and are afraid of my posts.   
      
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