XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
      
   On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 10:14:45 -0600, Free Lunch  wrote:   
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   >On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 17:51:59 -0500, "R.Dean" <"R. Dean"@gmail.com>   
   >wrote:   
   >   
   >>On 12/8/2014 7:02 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:   
   >>> On 8/12/2014 12:24 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>> On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:38:52 +1100, Sylvia Else   
   >>>>    
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>> .   
   >>>>> On 1/12/2014 1:28 AM, mur.@.not. wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>>>        Yes, why do billions of people believe for absolutely no   
   >>>>>>>> reason?   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> It's a question that's been asked many times here.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       Has it ever been given a respectable answer? If so, what was   
   >>>>>> it? Here's a   
   >>>>>> question that's been asked a number of times, but so far has never   
   >>>>>> been given a   
   >>>>>> respectable answer:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I think a respectable answer, or at least hypothesis, is that it's   
   >>>>> explained by a mixture of human nature and the indoctrination of   
   >>>>> children. This is not to say that it is necessarily the right answer,   
   >>>>> but as long as it remains a reasonable possibility, nothing much can be   
   >>>>> deduced from the fact that many people believe.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>       WHAT type of evidence do atheists think there "should be"?   
   >>>>>> WHERE do atheists   
   >>>>>> think the evidence they beg for "should be"? WHY do atheists think   
   >>>>>> it "should   
   >>>>>> be" to God's benefit for him to provide us with whatever particular   
   >>>>>> evidence   
   >>>>>> they keep whining about?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It's hard to know, a priori, what kind of evidence there might be.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>      You people seem to believe there should be some. Let's start with   
   >>>> why you   
   >>>> think that is, and maybe from there we can get to what you think it   
   >>>> should be.   
   >>>> Try to figure out why you think there should be some and where you   
   >>>> think it   
   >>>> should be.   
   >>>   
   >>> It is not my position that there should be some. My position is that if   
   >>> there is none, then there's no more reason to believe in God than there   
   >>> is a reason to believe in anything else for which there's no evidence.   
   >>>   
   >>For many people there is evidence of a design, which implies a designer.   
   >   
   >Calling something evidence does not make it evidence. The believers want   
   >to believe that their god exists and created. Facts have nothing to do   
   >with it.   
      
       The challenge remains: Try to explain WHAT type of evidence you think there   
   should be, WHERE you think it should be, WHY you think it should be available   
   to   
   humans, and WHEN you think it should have been or should be made available, if   
   there truly is a God associated with this planet.   
      
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