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   felix_unger to grabber   
   Re: astrology   
   01 Jan 15 08:54:25   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: me@nothere.biz   
      
   On 31-December-2014 10:03 PM, grabber wrote:   
      
   > On 30/12/2014 22:09, felix_unger wrote:   
   >> On 31-December-2014 2:11 AM, grabber wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> On 29/12/2014 20:05, felix_unger wrote:   
   >>>> On 30-December-2014 1:45 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>   If you eager to believe in things with no proof I have some old   
   >>>>> astrology texts to sell you.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> if astrology is just nonsense, how  do you explain why it's   
   >>>> accurate in   
   >>>> describing ppl by their star signs?   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> At this point, you need to provide some convincing reason to believe   
   >>> your claim that it actually is accurate.   
   >>   
   >> fair enough   
   >   
   > Go on, then.   
   >   
   >>> I'm not aware of any. I understand you have one description of your   
   >>> star sign that you think describes you well.   
   >>   
   >> It *does* describe me well, as do others I've seen for my star sign. not   
   >> only that, but I've noticed that star sign descriptions are generally   
   >> accurate for other ppl   
   >   
   > If you are basing your claim on research you have done yourself, it   
   > would be helpful if you could present a suitable report of the study   
   > you conducted.   
      
   it's just observation   
      
   >   
   >>> Do you understand why this does not provide a convincing reason to   
   >>> conclude that your claim is true? Have you looked at the research that   
   >>> has been done on this?   
   >>   
   >> no, I have not examined any research   
   >   
   > Why not?   
      
   why would I?   
      
   >   
   >>>   
   >>> I think it is quite plausible that astrology could be true, in that   
   >>> people who are born at different times of year are likely to have   
   >>> systematically different early experiences, e.g. their position by age   
   >>> in the school year group. However I am not aware of any evidence taht   
   >>> this does actually lead to personality differences. I did read   
   >>> somewhere of research that people with surnames near the beginning of   
   >>> the alphabet were more successful by some measure than others, with a   
   >>> proposed explanation that they tend to get more attention at school.   
   >>> But I don't know whether this has been confirmed.   
   >>>   
   >>> Even if astrology is true, I'm not sure it would be very useful or   
   >>> interesting.   
   >>   
   >> well, it's interesting up to a point, and useful as I say below   
   >>   
   >>> I suspect the best way to find out what people are like is to find out   
   >>> what they're like, rather than to find out their birthday and then   
   >>> assume they fit some personality template based on that.   
   >>   
   >> I'm not suggesting that. but if I wanted to know more about a person,   
   >> and I knew their star sign, it would at least give me some indication of   
   >> what they might be like. I have found more often than not ppl are   
   >> typical of their star sign. I'm thinking of many examples as I type   
   >> this. also astrology is useful for determining how compatible people are   
   >> with each other. water signs are most compatible with other water signs   
   >> for example, and least compatible with air or fire signs.   
   >   
   > How do you know that is true?   
   >   
      
   It's a claim that astrology makes, and it's been true from my experience.   
      
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