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   Free Lunch to mur.@.not.   
   Re: Undeniable ruination of news group a   
   10 Jan 15 14:10:01   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 13:11:33 -0500, mur.@.not. wrote:   
      
   >On Sun, 04 Jan 2015 13:01:58 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist  wrote:   
   >.   
   >>In article , mur.@.not.   
   >>wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I don't. I take it for granted that no one is able to get to the   
   >>> proof you're referring to, and He doesn't feel that it's best for   
   >>> what He wants to see happen for him to make it available to us.   
   >>   
   >>What makes you thing that if such a person would prevent all evidence of   
   >>its existence   
   >   
   >    I don't believe he would have to prevent it as I already told you but you   
   >don't seem able to comprehend. I believe it would be out of our reach to view   
   >whatever equipment etc he made use of, as well as the being himself and any   
   >beings that helped him, and he would have to deliberately make it available to   
   >us and that would only be if doing so would be best for what he wants to see   
   >happen, as I already explained for you.   
      
   How could a creator create without interacting in the universe in which   
   it creates?   
      
   >>that there is any evidence to suppose such  person   
   >>existing at all?   
   >   
   >    The fact that there are no animals in transition stages between reptiles   
   and   
   >birds today is evidence that something had deliberate influence on the way   
   >things evolved. The fact that there are very VERY few fossils of any such   
   >creatures is also evidence.   
   >   
   >>And what makes you Assume that if there is ay such person it is not she?   
   >   
   >    If God exists I don't believe he would be restricted to any particular   
   form   
   >or gender but refer to him as male out of convenience and because that's how   
   >we're encouraged to refer to him in most if not all canonical writings.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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