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   Free Lunch to malte_runz@forgitit.dk   
   Re: Undeniable ruination of news group a   
   11 Jan 15 16:26:14   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Sun, 11 Jan 2015 16:21:43 +0100, "Malte Runz"   
    wrote:   
      
   >"grabber"  skrev i meddelelsen news:D6ssw.763495$kK3.50513@fx10.am4...   
   >(snip)   
   >   
   >> What you have discovered here is that "evidence" isn't the only word that   
   >> you want to use differently than do at least some other people here.   
   >> "Belief" and "faith" turn out to be also in that category, at least while   
   >> you're talking to Malte.   
   >>   
   >> It's clear that Malte is happy to say he "believes" things that he knows   
   >> are probable rather than certain: it seems you are not.   
   >>   
   >> It's also clear that Malte is capable of distinguishing between "faith"   
   >> meaning a high degree of confidence in a belief, and "faith" referring to   
   >> a belief held in the absence of sufficient evidence. It seems you are   
   >> either unable or unwilling to make this discussion.   
   >>   
   >> It's not surprising that you find you can't agree with people if you don't   
   >> establish shared understandings of the words you want to use.   
   >   
   >When one doesn't want to reveal his personal beliefs, yet still want to tell   
   >others that they are wrong, you have to have 'rubberband definitions' of all   
   >relevant terms.   
   >   
   >Apart from that, you're right... again.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> (As an aside, I note that you think tigers roam wild in Africa. You might   
   >> want to check this out).   
   >   
   >I don't expect to find a penguin in my fridge next time I open it. 'But if   
   >you lived in an igloo...'   
      
   Like the tigers ...   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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