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   Message 86,701 of 88,286   
   Free Lunch to mur   
   Re: Undeniable ruination of news group a   
   15 Jan 15 17:31:31   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.talk.creationism   
   XPost: sci.skeptic   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Thu, 15 Jan 2015 17:07:56 -0500, mur wrote:   
      
   >On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 10:56:30 -0600, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >.   
   >>On Fri, 09 Jan 2015 14:55:06 -0500, The.W@tcher wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On Fri, 31 Oct 2014 16:05:14 -0400, The.W@tcher wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>For years atheists have demanded what they call "evidence" of God's   
   existence,   
   >>>>when what they really have been demanding is proof. When presented with   
   evidence   
   >>>>of various types they dishonestly have denied the fact that it is evidence,   
   >>>>enjoying the luxury of indulging themselves in their own blatant   
   dishonesty.   
   >>>>Their constant demand for proof which they dishonestly refer to as evidence   
   >>>>makes it clear that they believe there should be some sort of proof of   
   God's   
   >>>>existence available to humans if he does indeed exist.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>In the not too distant past atheists in these news groups have experienced   
   their   
   >>>>complete and total ruination which they encountered due to the challenge   
   >>>>presented to them by mur@.not The challenge was a simple one that they   
   should be   
   >>>>able to address and overcome with ease, yet in reality none of them could   
   >>>>address it at all much less overcome it. The challenge that defeated them   
   so   
   >>>>entirely was simply for them to try to explain what sort of "evidence" they   
   >>>>think there should be, where they think it should be, and why they think   
   God   
   >>>>should make it available to humans if he does exist. That simple challenge   
   >>>>resulted in their total ruination by exposing the fact that they don't   
   have the   
   >>>>slightest idea what sort of proof God should provide us with, much less   
   where he   
   >>>>should make it available. In the related followup thread "Why atheists are   
   >>>>clueless about the evidence aspect." the resulting exposure of their   
   >>>>cluelessness is examined and it's made clear that no one including the   
   atheists   
   >>>>themselves can suggest why any such proof should be available to humans.   
   That   
   >>>>failure makes it clear that they have been extreme fools all these years   
   for   
   >>>>demanding something we now see there's no reason should be available for   
   them to   
   >>>>be presented with.   
   >>>   
   >>>This is to make note of the fact that since posting this observation these   
   news   
   >>>group atheists are _still_  (10/31/14 - 1/09/15)  in undeniable ruination,   
   the   
   >>>simple challenge referred to above having brought about their complete and   
   total   
   >>>defeat in ever sense of the word.   
   >>   
   >>There is no evidence for any deity.   
   >   
   >    There's plenty of evidence   
      
   So you repeatedly allege, but never manage to show that I am wrong.   
      
   >and you lying about it is some of that evidence.   
      
   But you _know_ I am not lying. You can go sell your religious pabulum on   
   a religious group and no one questions you, but here we can see that you   
   are spewing nonsense.   
      
   >There's also no reason to think the proof you're really asking for should be   
   >available to humans.   
      
   I did not ask for proof. I noted there was no evidence. You whined.   
      
   You allege that there is no reason to assume that an actual deity would   
   allow evidence to exist, but that seems to be special pleading because   
   you know you have no evidence. You have never articulated a valid   
   justification for your wishful claim.   
      
   >There's also the fact that as he/she pointed out you people   
   >don't have the slightest clue what sort of "evidence" you think should exist,   
   or   
   >where it should be, or why it should be available to humans, or when it should   
   >be or should have been made available if there really is a God associated with   
   >Earth.   
      
   Why are you so unwilling to acknowledge that you know exactly what   
   evidence is and that you have none. Stop making excuses. Stop trying to   
   allege that your deity went out of its way to hide. Is your deity that   
   afraid of people?   
      
   >So the only thing you "have" is a horribly blatant lie, and then more   
   >lying in your attempts to support the first one, all of which at the same time   
   >making YOU evidence of God's existence by being evidence of Satan's existence   
   >and influence on your own weak puny mind.   
      
   There's no evidence that any deities exist, not even Satan.   
      
   Your religion is without foundation and you tell us that is because your   
   deity hid the evidence. How silly of you.   
      
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