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   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Tue, 10 Feb 2015 17:52:34 -0700, A Nony Mouse  wrote:   
      
   >In article <2o4ldah5qo072pcljugc8kseima7qoplib@4ax.com>, mur wrote:   
   >   
   >> On Thu, 05 Feb 2015 16:46:56 -0800, Jeanne Douglas    
   >> wrote:   
   >> .   
   >> >In article , mur wrote:   
   >> >   
   >> >> On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 03:43:54 -0800, Jeanne Douglas   
   >> >>    
   >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> .   
   >> >> >In article <0qrqcalc1ofgv7gemh395qn40u3tofeiro@4ax.com>, mur wrote:   
   >> >> >   
   >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 22:25:02 -0800, Jeanne Douglas   
   >> >> >>    
   >> >> >> wrote:   
   >> >> >> .   
   >> >> >> >On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 13:45:42 -0500, mur wrote:   
   >> >> >> >   
   >> >> >> >>On Tue, 20 Jan 2015 23:28:47 -0700, Wisely Non-Theist    
   >> >> >> >>wrote:   
   >> >> >> >>.   
   >> >> >> >>>In article ,   
   >> >> >> >>> felix_unger  wrote:   
   >> >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >> >>>> it takes faith to believe that God does not   
   >> >> >> >>>> exist   
   >> >> >> >>>   
   >> >> >> >>>Perhaps it does may faith to disbelieve in what a person has once   
   >> >> >> >>>believed in,   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >>    To disbelieve can mean to have no belief at all, but it can also   
   >> >> >> >>    mean   
   >> >> >> >>    to   
   >> >> >> >>believe something is incorrect. That is very unfortunate imo, and   
   >> >> >> >>possibly   
   >> >> >> >>the   
   >> >> >> >>cause of some honest confustion...POSSIBLY.   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >>>but it takes no such faith not to believe in something one   
   >> >> >> >>>never has believed in.   
   >> >> >> >>   
   >> >> >> >>To honestly have no belief requires considering the   
   >> >> >> >>possibility that something is correct as well as that it's   
   >> >> >> >>not correct. You make it clearly obvious you can consider the   
   >> >> >> >>possibility that God does not exist as being correct. Try to   
   >> >> >> >>present some evidence that you can also consider the   
   >> >> >> >>possibility that God does exist as being correct, if you   
   >> >> >> >>really would like to try pretending you honestly have no   
   >> >> >> >>belief about it.   
   >> >> >> >   
   >   
   >A careful person will not reject the possibility of no gods existing on   
   >the basis of any evidence as yet presented, nor reject the reverse   
   >possibility on that evidence.   
   >   
   >Such careful persons are called agnostics.   
      
   Not really. Agnostics say that they do not know and cannot know if any   
   deities exist. They may be believers or not be believers.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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