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   duke to All   
   Re: Dopey Duke Admits he has no Evidence   
   11 Dec 09 06:34:30   
   
   XPost: alt.talk.creationism, alt.recovery.catholicism   
   From: duckgumbo32@cox.net   
      
   On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:44:15 GMT, Dave Oldridge    
   wrote:   
      
   >>>>Yep, no doubt about that.  Our soul is infused in each of us at our   
   >>>>conception. We define our soul at our animation and essence - we with   
   >>>>our human souls prefer good over bad, right over wrong, love over   
   >>>>hate.   
      
   >>>Ancient Hebrew tradition places this infusion at the moment called   
   >>>"quickening" which occurs when the fetus first moves on its own.  If   
   >>>nature is to be believed, then pregnancy in humans begins at   
   >>>implantation.   
      
   >>Or the first date between the egg and the sperm.   
      
   >According to what teaching?  And why aren't heroic efforts being made to   
   >"save" the very significant number of zygotes that simply fail to   
   >implant?   
      
   Ancient Jewish tradition does not preclude more modern Christian understanding.   
   But, maybe my words speak too early.  "First date" is my version opposing life   
   starting at birth pushed by many others making abortion appear ok.   
      
   >>>>be a Christian?   
   >>>>Well, I'm a Christian.  But I don't know what you are.   
      
   >>>Read the Nicene Creed.  It pretty much sums up my core belief system.   
      
   >>Then we're both Roman Catholic.   However, please note that I have lost   
   >>track of our discussion.  I can't determine if we're on the same page   
   >>or opposite pages.   
      
   >Catholic, but I'm not Roman...my lineage objected to the novel doctrine   
   >of papal infallibility about a century and a half ago when it was first   
   >proposed.   
      
   Which Catholic would that be?  The EOC ducked out on the Pope 1000 years ago.   
      
   I would guess all doctrines are novel at some point.   
      
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