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   From: alaspectrum@netvigator.com   
      
   old man joe wrote:   
      
   > no, God does not love the wicked and neither does He have a ' perfect plan   
   for your life '   
   > in any good sense of the phrase coined by the co-redeemer's.   
   >   
   > God hates the wicked as well as their ways. ( Ps. 5:4-6 )   
   >   
   > His ' perfect plan for your life ' is as the Bible says... " God gave them   
   up. "   
   > ( Ro. 1:21-32 )  "  men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in   
   their own   
   > persons the due penalty of their error. "   ( v. 27 NAS95 )   
   >   
   > AIDS is the ' due penalty. '   
   >   
   > " abusers of themselves with mankind " as recorded in 1 Cor. 6:9 is rendered   
   from a   
   > compound Greek word meaning " a man who lies in bed with another male, a   
   homosexual "   
   > the verse begins with the declaration by God that these " will not inherit   
   the kingdom of   
   > God. "  while these insist on their " rights, " as though God condones such   
   behavior;  gay   
   > bashing is never so eloquent as when God bashes them.   
   >   
   > thinking themselves righteous in the sight of God these become minister's   
   and priest's and   
   > priestesses of liberal denominations who pride themselves on the idea that   
   it's fine to   
   > continue in sin   
      
   Sin has always been a tool of the clergy, used and adopted to bolster   
   membership. It is   
   seized upon with zeal because there is a universal distaste for sin - even a   
   thief gets   
   highly agitated if someone breaks into his home and steals his loot.   
      
   Sin was around long before man could speak in simple tongue, let alone write.   
   Eons later sin   
   was   
   hijacked, applied, used, twisted and manipulated by the clergy with more force   
   and enthusiasm   
   than any other example of religious dogma.   
      
   Until preachers and their hangers on, like old man joe here, defer from   
   manipulating sin as a   
   propagating tool - they too will never be free from sin themselves.   
      
      
      
   > that grace may abound.   
   >   
   > while the Living God in Christ is " slow to anger and abundant in loving   
   kindness,   
   > forgiving iniquity and transgression, " He goes on to say " but He will by   
   no means clear   
   > the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the   
   third and the   
   > fourth generations. "  Nu. 14:18   
   >   
   > how then does God " visit iniquity " ?  by destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, by   
   destroying   
   > the wicked with the Flood, by sending pestilence... AIDS.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)