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From: lunch@nofreelunch.us
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:04:59 -0800 (PST), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On Dec 13, 2:36 pm, Virgil wrote:
>> In article ,
>> old man joe wrote:
>>
>> > we can never suppose for even a moment that out of the goodness of their
>> > hardened heart's
>> > the Atheist's want to do the elect a favor and enlighten us to what '
facts'
>> > they offer to
>> > prove to us there is no God.
>>
>> Most atheists, the agnostic ones at least, reject both the claim that
>> any god exists and the claim that no gods exist as being unproven, and,
>> quite possibly, unprovable.
>>
>> Theists usually conflate proselytizing anti-theists (no gods) with
>> agnostic and non-proselytizing non-theists(no known gods)
>> indiscriminately, which makes their arguments against either a bit
>> foolish.
>>
>>
>>
>> > why do they get so enraged if they as so sure there is no God ?
>>
>> Both the anti-theists and the non-theists would be a good deal less
>> "enraged" if you theists would cease poking at them.
>> afor
>> Non-theists, at least, do not tend to poke into your many religious NGs,
>> except in response to your own poking in our non-theist NGs, but our
>> even responding to being poked at seems to infuriate you theists to the
>> point of frenzy and fanaticism.
>>
>> And our "rage" is no greater than yours when 7th day Adventists or
>> Mormons, or such like, rings your doorbell proselytizing.
>
>Atheism has no doubt gotton very militant over the last decade or so.
Not particularly, certainly not like religionists like you.
>The hostility is astounding . Every atheist organization proselytizes
>while defaming The Christian Faith .
The faith is not the problem. The supposed followers who spend their
lives lying to others are.
> Since Gurus like Dawkins and
>Hitchens came on the scene, their followers have been indoctrinated
>into a new kind of hate ... a purposed agenda to rid the world of
>Religion -- so their religion can reign... as if atheism offers the
>worlds people hope and truth by living for today.
It's lies like this that persuade people that there are a lot of
so-called Christians who are completely untrustworthy and immoral.
>Weve already seen
>in the last century atheism played out to its fullest .
Not so.
> As to your
>question regarding The Gospel ... The Gospel message is one of offense
>because it makes the Hearer come to terms with the dark side of his
>personality and his pride to think he is really pretty good
>overall..when nothing can be further from the truth.
I like what Jesus is said to have taught. You've made it clear that you
do not.
> The Gospel
>Message says 'you need a Saviour because of your sin nature' yet many
>refuse that fact because it hits at the heart of ones willful
>rebellion and proclivity to live his life anyway he pleases whether
>right or wrong. The Gospel Message is an insult, an offense , a fly
>in the ointment, a rude awakening, the Stone that makes Men
>stumble...but to those who accept it and recieve it, it is the key to
>reconciliation to God and promised eternal life spent with him which
>will FAR surpass the fleeting pleasures of this short lived Life.
>Therefore, it is ones PRIDE that does one in but SALVATION is the
>FREE GIFT of having your many sins forgiven so you can be called a
>child of the most high Creator suitable (but undeserving) of living
>in Heaven with joy unspeakable. Its an easy choice...but one not
>many make correctly.
You celebrate your ignorance, dishonesty and foolishness. You mock the
god you claim to worship with your behavior. You are in no position to
lecture anyone on how to behave.
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