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From: lunch@nofreelunch.us
On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:31:13 -0800 (PST), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>On Dec 13, 4:57 pm, Free Lunch wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 13:04:59 -0800 (PST), "IlBeBa...@gmail.com"
>> wrote in alt.talk.creationism:
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> >On Dec 13, 2:36 pm, Virgil wrote:
>> >> In article ,
>> >> old man joe wrote:
>>
>> >> > we can never suppose for even a moment that out of the goodness of
their
>> >> > hardened heart's
>> >> > the Atheist's want to do the elect a favor and enlighten us to what '
facts'
>> >> > they offer to
>> >> > prove to us there is no God.
>>
>> >> Most atheists, the agnostic ones at least, reject both the claim that
>> >> any god exists and the claim that no gods exist as being unproven, and,
>> >> quite possibly, unprovable.
>>
>> >> Theists usually conflate proselytizing anti-theists (no gods) with
>> >> agnostic and non-proselytizing non-theists(no known gods)
>> >> indiscriminately, which makes their arguments against either a bit
>> >> foolish.
>>
>> >> > why do they get so enraged if they as so sure there is no God ?
>>
>> >> Both the anti-theists and the non-theists would be a good deal less
>> >> "enraged" if you theists would cease poking at them.
>> >> afor
>> >> Non-theists, at least, do not tend to poke into your many religious NGs,
>> >> except in response to your own poking in our non-theist NGs, but our
>> >> even responding to being poked at seems to infuriate you theists to the
>> >> point of frenzy and fanaticism.
>>
>> >> And our "rage" is no greater than yours when 7th day Adventists or
>> >> Mormons, or such like, rings your doorbell proselytizing.
>>
>> >Atheism has no doubt gotton very militant over the last decade or so.
>>
>> Not particularly, certainly not like religionists like you.
>>
>> >The hostility is astounding . Every atheist organization proselytizes
>> >while defaming The Christian Faith .
>>
>> The faith is not the problem. The supposed followers who spend their
>> lives lying to others are.
>>
>> > Since Gurus like Dawkins and
>> >Hitchens came on the scene, their followers have been indoctrinated
>> >into a new kind of hate ... a purposed agenda to rid the world of
>> >Religion -- so their religion can reign... as if atheism offers the
>> >worlds people hope and truth by living for today.
>>
>> It's lies like this that persuade people that there are a lot of
>> so-called Christians who are completely untrustworthy and immoral.
>>
>> >Weve already seen
>> >in the last century atheism played out to its fullest .
>>
>> Not so.
>>
>> > As to your
>> >question regarding The Gospel ... The Gospel message is one of offense
>> >because it makes the Hearer come to terms with the dark side of his
>> >personality and his pride to think he is really pretty good
>> >overall..when nothing can be further from the truth.
>>
>> I like what Jesus is said to have taught. You've made it clear that you
>> do not.
>>
>> > The Gospel
>> >Message says 'you need a Saviour because of your sin nature' yet many
>> >refuse that fact because it hits at the heart of ones willful
>> >rebellion and proclivity to live his life anyway he pleases whether
>> >right or wrong. The Gospel Message is an insult, an offense , a fly
>> >in the ointment, a rude awakening, the Stone that makes Men
>> >stumble...but to those who accept it and recieve it, it is the key to
>> >reconciliation to God and promised eternal life spent with him which
>> >will FAR surpass the fleeting pleasures of this short lived Life.
>> >Therefore, it is ones PRIDE that does one in but SALVATION is the
>> >FREE GIFT of having your many sins forgiven so you can be called a
>> >child of the most high Creator suitable (but undeserving) of living
>> >in Heaven with joy unspeakable. Its an easy choice...but one not
>> >many make correctly.
>>
>> You celebrate your ignorance, dishonesty and foolishness. You mock the
>> god you claim to worship with your behavior. You are in no position to
>> lecture anyone on how to behave.- Hide quoted text -
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>The above is the outpouring of accidental natural causes and so
>should not / cannot be taken as accurate dispensed information ; for
>it is unwise to treat such assertions as absolutely correct when they
>were arrived at by pure accident according to your own atheist
>faith . In other words, your own faith in atheism thereby
>invalidates what you claim.
Your lies are your own. You don't get to blame God for your foolishness
or claim that He told you to remain ignorant.
--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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