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   XPost: alt.talk.creationism, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   From: dan@listermann.com   
      
   "Devils Advocaat" wrote in message   
   news:55a032a6-5ec5-4575-8790-5e1f9464d928@r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...   
   On 20 Dec, 15:01, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote:   
   > On Dec 20, 8:26 am, Free Lunch wrote:   
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   > > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:08:08 -0500, old man joe wrote   
   > > in alt.talk.creationism:   
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   > > Joe, why do you waste your time interpreting a book that you cannot show   
   > > is accurate? Why do you come up with really stupid interpretations that   
   > > are contrary to observed reality? Why do you post to too many   
   > > newsgroups? Why can't you answer questions?   
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   > > You mock God with the falsehoods you spread. I wouldn't be surprised if   
   > > that were your goal.   
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   > > >the time line of earth history invented by the Atheists do not at all   
   > > >come close to   
   > > >reality concerning anything of which they speak. after all, to suppose   
   > > >life comes from   
   > > >things not alive by reason of the elements of which they are comprised   
   > > >only shows " the   
   > > >ignorance that is in them " ( Eph. 4:18 ) and that these have a   
   > > >character of heart   
   > > >comparable to the " unreasoning animals " God labels them as having.   
   > > >2 Pet. 2:12   
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   > > >since one of the many names God reveals Himself by is " The Life, " (   
   > > >Jn. 14:6 ) no   
   > > >Atheistic philosophy can possibly demonstrate how the elements   
   > > >comprising living thing's   
   > > >exist alive without Him.   
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   > > >in the first chapter of Genesis we see that in the same week God   
   > > >created all living   
   > > >things. dinosaur's and man existed together from that time until the   
   > > >Flood... a span of   
   > > >some 6 thousand years. the genealogies of certain men recorded in the   
   > > >Bible give the time   
   > > >of Creation, and ultimately the life span of the earth and universe as   
   > > >just over 13   
   > > >thousand years.   
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   > > >interestingly enough, one might ask how it could be that Adam and his   
   > > >family weren't life   
   > > >threatened by carnivore dinosaur's. a fair question. the Bible gives   
   > > >the location of the   
   > > >Garden of Eden by reason of it's the four rivers mentioned, three of   
   > > >which are still with   
   > > >us today. we know that the grace of God feeds the non elect as well as   
   > > >His elect.   
   > > >Mt. 5:45   
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   > > >there are no dinosaur fossils found in the area of the four rivers   
   > > >where God placed Adam   
   > > >and civilization began. the dinosaur's became part of all of the crude   
   > > >oil buried in the   
   > > >ground found today in that region of Mesopotamia.   
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   > > >( for all that crude oil to be found on dry land there once had to be   
   > > >massive organic life   
   > > >on top of the ground quickly buried by a flood, the Flood of Noah )   
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   > > >the most ancient cities of man are located in Mesopotamia, not in   
   > > >Africa as the Atheists   
   > > >hope. their idea is that man existed as man for some 200,000 years in   
   > > >Africa and in that   
   > > >space of time he never built a city there. neither did writing come   
   > > >about in his 2   
   > > >hundred thousand years of existence in Africa. but when we study the   
   > > >area of Mesopotamia   
   > > >as the birthplace of man since the Garden was there, we find civilized   
   > > >man building cities   
   > > >and writing things down on clay.   
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   > > >the Atheists must invent their facts as they go along. the earliest   
   > > >writings on clay are   
   > > >dated between 5,200 and 5,500 years old and are found in the oldest   
   > > >civilizations found,   
   > > >all of which are in Mesopotamia, not Africa. the Atheists need Africa   
   > > >as their starting   
   > > >point because monkey bones abound there and its necessary for them to   
   > > >say they found human   
   > > >bones to ' prove ' there point all the while it's monkey bones... huh,   
   > > >if they really,   
   > > >really want to prove their point, let them prove how life comes from   
   > > >non living elements.   
   > > >note that they must, of necessity, steer around that. their foundation   
   > > >begins on the   
   > > >second floor.   
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   > > >a speculation is in order at this point... suppose the typical God   
   > > >hating Atheist digs up   
   > > >a carnivor skeleton and the bones of a human are inside its rib cage.   
   > > >can be suppose for   
   > > >a moment that the God hating Atheist is going to go the way of " The   
   > > >Truth, " another of   
   > > >the many names of the Living God, or can we rightly suppose he'll   
   > > >default to the only life   
   > > >he's accustomed to ?   
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   > > >" Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may   
   > > >ye also do good,   
   > > >that are accustomed to do evil. " Jer. 13:23   
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   > > >" You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good? For   
   > > >the mouth speaks   
   > > >out of that which fills the heart. " Mt. 12:34- Hide quoted text -   
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   > Its been shown that Man DID exist with Dinosaurs. Have you heard of   
   > Dinosaur Park out west ? Do a google. If you cant find it...ill go   
   > back in my files and take a look for you.   
      
   "Now lets see, what would convince me that humans and dinosaurs co-   
   existed?   
      
   I guess a fossil bed containing human and dinosaur remains would do   
   it, as long as it was properly examined, documented and dated   
   correctly.   
      
   Or maybe, if it was within the last few thousand years, a preserved   
   example of a dinosaur that could be dated and verified as being   
   recent, rather than prehistoric.   
      
   Other than the above, don't ask me to accept the unsupported claims of   
   various individuals who have an alternative agenda."   
      
   But you don't seem to understand "alternative agenda." Because it is   
   alternative, it must be far more correct that conventional, right?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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