XPost: alt.talk.creationism, alt.agnosticism, alt.atheism   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Fri, 01 Jan 2010 06:22:35 -0500, old man joe  wrote   
   in alt.talk.creationism:   
      
   >   
   >the somewhat more honest Evolutionists do admit to guessing their way through   
   how it all   
   >began.  many Internet sites of their's have these magic words in it...   
   >" educated guesses. "   
   >   
   >the reality is they're forced to be pigeon - holed into the established   
   idea's of the Big   
   >Bang and Evolution concocted by those that came before them because none of   
   them can now   
   >dream up an idea which would usurp their established philosophies existing   
   today.  they   
   >can only guess new " facts " that fit into the established norm, which were "   
   educated   
   >guesses " to begin with.  an educated ( ? ) guess is the legacy left behind   
   by the big   
   >guns of the Big Bang and Evolution.   
   >   
   >they'll never find a reason for the elements of the Periodic Table coming to   
   life all by   
   >themselves.  life is not in elements that are not alive.  such can not be   
   explained away   
   >by science and cursing God.  life is in the Living God.   
   >   
   >but rather than admit life comes from the Living God putting that missing   
   element of life   
   >into things He makes to become alive from dead elements, they fall back into   
   the only   
   >world they know, which is alienation from God.  ( Ro. 1:24;  Eph. 2:12 )   
   >   
   >a reasonable thinker in the world of Atheism simply can not avoid pondering   
   the question's   
   >of how did we get here, how did the universe come to be.  starting on the   
   second floor as   
   >they do, life came from elements that are not alive.   
   >   
   >life came from elements that are not alive in absolute sterility of their "   
   early earth "   
   >idea of boiling rock and poison gasses.   
   >   
   >in sufficient time, as though time makes dead elements come alive, the   
   boiling sterile   
   >earth cooled off and just the right dead elements gave themselves life.   
   >   
   >eventually, my Thanksgiving turkey, which they say was once a dinosaur which   
   evolved back   
   >into a turkey came into being.  monkeys eventually turned into man.  of   
   course, somewhere   
   >in the mix, female just happened to be available so dead elements which made   
   her alive   
   >too, could produce more and more of everything needed to evolve from boiling   
   sterile   
   >earth's elements.   
   >   
   >and they say the elect Christians of the Living God to whom He's given life   
   eternal by the   
   >faith of Jesus Christ are stupid.   
   >   
   >the elect do not make " educated guesses " as to there being the Living God   
   who made the   
   >universe and living things by speaking them into existance.  He has given the   
   elect of His   
   >life by His grace to share in His glory in the here and now as we read in Jn.   
   17.  His   
   >elect are perfected only by the faith of Jesus Christ;  they who are without   
   this faith   
   >being given to them simply can not know God...  " This is eternal life, that   
   they may know   
   >You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. ' v. 3... as   
   opposed to v. 9   
   >... " I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast   
   given me;   
   >for they are thine. "   
   >   
   >" So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. "   
   >Ro. 9:18   
      
   Joe, you are hopelessly ignorant and seem to be inordinately proud of   
   your ignorance. I don't limit your ignorance to your complete lack of   
   understanding of science, either. You have demonstrated that you will   
   create your own brand of Christianity to suit your foolish pride and   
   that you don't really care what other people think or say.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)