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   From: spaXm-mXe-anXd-paXy-5000-dollars@pobox.com   
      
   On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 19:45:20 -0800 (PST), SkyEyes wrote:   
      
   >On Jan 9, 6:27 am, Ben Kaufman doll...@pobox.com> wrote:   
   >> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:31:16 -0800 (PST), Lorentz    
   wrote:   
   >> >On Dec 20 2009, 12:18 pm, Devils Advocaat    
   >> >wrote:   
   >> >> On 20 Dec, 15:01, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> > On Dec 20, 8:26 am, Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>   
   >> >> > > On Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:08:08 -0500, old man joe    
   wrote   
   >> >> > > in alt.talk.creationism:   
   >>   
   >> >> > > Joe, why do you waste your time interpreting a book that you cannot   
   show   
   >> >> > > is accurate? Why do you come up with really stupid interpretations   
   that   
   >> >> > > are contrary to observed reality? Why do you post to too many   
   >> >> > > newsgroups? Why can't you answer questions?   
   >>   
   >> >> > > You mock God with the falsehoods you spread. I wouldn't be surprised   
   if   
   >> >> > > that were your goal.   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >the time line of earth history invented by the Atheists do not at   
   all come close to   
   >> >> > > >reality concerning anything of which they speak. after all, to   
   suppose life comes from   
   >> >> > > >things not alive by reason of the elements of which they are   
   comprised only shows " the   
   >> >> > > >ignorance that is in them " ( Eph. 4:18 ) and that these have a   
   character of heart   
   >> >> > > >comparable to the " unreasoning animals " God labels them as having.   
   >> >> > > >2 Pet. 2:12   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >since one of the many names God reveals Himself by is " The Life,   
    " ( Jn. 14:6 ) no   
   >> >> > > >Atheistic philosophy can possibly demonstrate how the elements   
   comprising living thing's   
   >> >> > > >exist alive without Him.   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >in the first chapter of Genesis we see that in the same week God   
   created all living   
   >> >> > > >things. dinosaur's and man existed together from that time until   
   the Flood... a span of   
   >> >> > > >some 6 thousand years. the genealogies of certain men recorded in   
   the Bible give the time   
   >> >> > > >of Creation, and ultimately the life span of the earth and universe   
   as just over 13   
   >> >> > > >thousand years.   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >interestingly enough, one might ask how it could be that Adam and   
   his family weren't life   
   >> >> > > >threatened by carnivore dinosaur's. a fair question. the Bible   
   gives the location of the   
   >> >> > > >Garden of Eden by reason of it's the four rivers mentioned, three   
   of which are still with   
   >> >> > > >us today. we know that the grace of God feeds the non elect as   
   well as His elect.   
   >> >> > > >Mt. 5:45   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >there are no dinosaur fossils found in the area of the four rivers   
   where God placed Adam   
   >> >> > > >and civilization began. the dinosaur's became part of all of the   
   crude oil buried in the   
   >> >> > > >ground found today in that region of Mesopotamia.   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >( for all that crude oil to be found on dry land there once had to   
   be massive organic life   
   >> >> > > >on top of the ground quickly buried by a flood, the Flood of Noah )   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >the most ancient cities of man are located in Mesopotamia, not in   
   Africa as the Atheists   
   >> >> > > >hope. their idea is that man existed as man for some 200,000 years   
   in Africa and in that   
   >> >> > > >space of time he never built a city there. neither did writing   
   come about in his 2   
   >> >> > > >hundred thousand years of existence in Africa. but when we study   
   the area of Mesopotamia   
   >> >> > > >as the birthplace of man since the Garden was there, we find   
   civilized man building cities   
   >> >> > > >and writing things down on clay.   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >the Atheists must invent their facts as they go along. the   
   earliest writings on clay are   
   >> >> > > >dated between 5,200 and 5,500 years old and are found in the oldest   
   civilizations found,   
   >> >> > > >all of which are in Mesopotamia, not Africa. the Atheists need   
   Africa as their starting   
   >> >> > > >point because monkey bones abound there and its necessary for them   
   to say they found human   
   >> >> > > >bones to ' prove ' there point all the while it's monkey bones...   
   huh, if they really,   
   >> >> > > >really want to prove their point, let them prove how life comes   
   from non living elements.   
   >> >> > > >note that they must, of necessity, steer around that. their   
   foundation begins on the   
   >> >> > > >second floor.   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >a speculation is in order at this point... suppose the typical God   
   hating Atheist digs up   
   >> >> > > >a carnivor skeleton and the bones of a human are inside its rib   
   cage. can be suppose for   
   >> >> > > >a moment that the God hating Atheist is going to go the way of "   
   The Truth, " another of   
   >> >> > > >the many names of the Living God, or can we rightly suppose he'll   
   default to the only life   
   >> >> > > >he's accustomed to ?    
   >>   
   >> >> > > >" Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then   
   may ye also do good,   
   >> >> > > >that are accustomed to do evil. " Jer. 13:23   
   >>   
   >> >> > > >" You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good?   
   For the mouth speaks   
   >> >> > > >out of that which fills the heart. " Mt. 12:34- Hide quoted text -   
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   >> >> > Its been shown that Man DID exist with Dinosaurs. Have you heard of   
   >> >> > Dinosaur Park out west ? Do a google. If you cant find it...ill go   
   >> >> > back in my files and take a look for you.   
   >>   
   >> >> Now lets see, what would convince me that humans and dinosaurs co-   
   >> >> existed?   
   >>   
   >> >> I guess a fossil bed containing human and dinosaur remains would do   
   >> >> it, as long as it was properly examined, documented and dated   
   >> >> correctly.   
   >>   
   >> >> Or maybe, if it was within the last few thousand years, a preserved   
   >> >> example of a dinosaur that could be dated and verified as being   
   >> >> recent, rather than prehistoric.   
   >>   
   >> > Or maybe if a T. Rex ran you down, caught you, and started ripping   
   >> >you apart.   
   >>   
   >> Maybe BigFoot is actually an evolved TRex? .   
   >   
   >Or one of the Cambrian mammal trilobites that [M]Adman claimed   
   >existed, in one of his more notorious talk.origins posts.   
   >   
   >Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34   
   >BAAWA Knight   
   >EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding   
   >skyeyes nine at cox dot net   
      
   Cambrian mammal trilobites? Come to think of it I might have seen a wine   
   recommendation for that. Unfortunately, plate tectonics have relocated the   
   vineyard under the ocean.   
      
   Ben   
      
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