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   From: Since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_much@spamyourself.com   
      
   old man joe schreef:   
   > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 11:48:42 +0100, Erwin Moller   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> old man joe schreef:   
   >>> wonderfully, God has so constructed the nature of man that even the   
   reprobate's bring glory to Him   
   >>> when they deny His existence or some particular work He has done. you can   
   read all about it in   
   >>> Php. 1:28; Jn. 8:43,44 for example.   
   >>   
   >> Hi, it is spammer Joe again.   
   >> Always a pleasure...   
   >>   
   >> Are you still having this habbit of spamming many newsgroups at once   
   >> without ever reading the responses?   
   >>   
   >> In that case: Stuff it, you coward.   
   >>   
   >> No point in crafting an intelligent reply to your lies.   
   >>   
   >> Erwin Moller   
      
      
   Congratulations, a response.   
   An evasive one, but at least a response.   
      
      
   >   
   > you can't craft an intelligent reply... you've shown that in this one...   
      
      
   I surely can.   
   The fact I didn't do it in the last reply is simply: I wasted a few   
   hours on you already, writing intelligent responses.   
   Your response? None at all.   
   Ducking. Evasive maneuvers, etc. The usual creationist actions.   
      
   I am perfectly willing to have a decent discussion with you.   
   I promise I'll stay civil.   
   But you and I both know you won't do that.   
   You had many chances before, and you always run.   
      
   So tell me, why should I AGAIN write a wellthought response to you?   
   You ignore everybody that doesn't hang on your lips, drinking your   
   words, and believing it all because Joe said it.   
   Sorry mate, I have a brain and can think for myself. I won't let a   
   fundie dictate how to think.   
      
   But still, if you care for a serious discussion about theism/atheism or   
   morality or whatever, I am here.   
      
      
   > you need to hide your   
   > ignorance by dodging and by making personal attacks as all Atheists in the   
   mold.   
      
   I don't need to hide my ignorance.   
   I am always willing to admit that I was not born with all knowledge.   
      
   Arrogance is the way of the creationist.   
   Claiming God exists without proof. Claiming Jesus lived and preformed   
   miracles. Claiming the bible is completely true, even though it is full   
   of contradictions. Claiming the Earth is 6000 years or or so, despite   
   scientific evidence that it is much older.   
      
   Really: arrogance is the way of the creationist.   
      
      
   Creationists are very reluctant to admit they don't know certain things   
   and simply make stuff up along. If somebody doubts their words, they   
   make an appeal to authority, and avoid the difficult questions in that   
   lame way.   
      
   I prefer the scientific way: A much better approach to reality because   
   that method has built into it ways to deal with nonsense.   
      
   So call me arrogant/ignorant all you will.   
      
   Irritated by this response?   
   Proof me wrong and start a discussion (and finish it!) instead of having   
   monologues in 10 newsgroups at the same time....   
      
      
   Erwin Moller   
      
   --   
   "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to   
   make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the   
   other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious   
   deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult."   
   -- C.A.R. Hoare   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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