XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.atheism   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:29:17 -0400, old man joe wrote   
   in alt.atheism:   
      
   >On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:17:16 -0400, Darrell Stec wrote:   
   >   
   >>Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>>there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto   
   >>>>salvation; it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be saved.   
   >>>>Romans 9:18 tells you that.   
   >>>   
   >>> So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your interpretation.   
   >>   
   >>Actually, not really. Joshua did say that many were called but few were   
   >>chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved. That is   
   >>about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very soon.   
   >>   
   >>But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions. The authors   
   >>have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses, not once, not   
   >>twice, but frequently. Something about a committee and an elephant comes to   
   >>mind.   
   >   
   >it is simply not given to Atheists to understand the Bible... they are "   
   hardened. " Ro. 9:18   
      
   I understand the Bible, that I why I reject so many teachings in it.   
      
   You have chosen to be a fool. That is why you cannot learn.   
      
   >" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto   
   us which are saved it   
   >is the power of God. " 1 Cor. 1:18   
      
   Saved? Show me.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   
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