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   Free Lunch to old man joe   
   Re: Atheism... the default belief system   
   23 Mar 10 21:40:36   
   
   XPost: alt.agnosticism, alt.athiesm, alt.atheism   
   From: lunch@nofreelunch.us   
      
   On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:02:15 -0400, old man joe  wrote   
   in alt.atheism:   
      
   >On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:31:43 GMT, Free Lunch  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:31:16 -0400, old man joe  wrote   
   >>in alt.atheism:   
   >>   
   >>>On Mon, 22 Mar 2010 04:56:43 -0000, "Smiler"  wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>Darrell Stec wrote:   
   >>>>> Free Lunch wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>>> there we read that no one is capable of accepting Jesus Christ unto   
   >>>>>>> salvation;  it is God choice who will be saved and who will not be   
   >>>>>>> saved. Romans 9:18 tells you that.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> So the author of Romans is calling Jesus a liar in your   
   >>>>>> interpretation.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Actually, not really.  Joshua did say that many were called but few   
   >>>>> were chosen and Revelation does say that only 144,000 will be saved.   
   >>>>> That is about 70 people a year worldwide if the end comes very, very   
   >>>>> soon.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> But then the bible is nothing but a book of contradictions.  The   
   >>>>> authors have Joshua even contradicting himself within a few verses,   
   >>>>> not once, not twice, but frequently.  Something about a committee and   
   >>>>> an elephant comes to mind.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Isn't that the definition of a camel...a horse designed by a committee.   
   >>>   
   >>>" For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but   
   unto us which are saved it   
   >>>is the power of God. "  1 Cor. 1:18   
   >>   
   >>Why would anyone believe what Paul had to say?   
   >>   
   >>You've got no evidence at all that Paul was saying anything that God   
   >>wanted. When you have evidence that the Bible is trustworthy, get back   
   >>to us.   
   >   
   >there is no proof whatsoever that an Atheist can accept concerning the Living   
   God of the Bible...   
   >they are " hardened, " ( Ro. 9:18 )... they are given a life " without hope "   
   ( Eph. 2:12 )  they   
   >are " atheos, " ( Eph. 2:12 ) atheist's... they are " without God. "   
   >   
   >the Atheist know's there is God since God made Himself evident to everyone   
   rendering everyone   
   >" without excuse. "  ( Ro. 1:18-20 )   
      
   Joe, you immoral fool, why do you keep telling lies about others and   
   blaming God for your immoral behavior? Stop being proud of the defective   
   god you have invented and stop worshipping your ignorance and   
   foolishness. Repent.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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