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   From: reverend_dave@minister.com   
      
   old man joe  wrote in   
   news:hl53s5d4551il07lsrqdggf6iufg741utq@4ax.com:   
      
   > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:28:33 -0500, geronimo    
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >>Consider the following:   
   >>When bringing all the animals aboard the ark, there could not have   
   >>been room for every single species on the entire earth.   
   >   
   > the Ark was as large as the Queen Mary,  you simply assume there was   
   > no room.   
      
   Supposedly it was 450 feet long, which is roughly half as long as the QM,   
   45 feet high, roughly a quarter the height of the QM and 75 feet wide or   
   two thirds the width of the QM.   
      
   The Queen Mary had a crew of over 1000 compared to eight people who would   
   have had to spent their entire day cleaning out stalls and feeding the   
   thousands of species of animals. Some of these animals, like koalas and   
   pandas for instance would require special food available only in their   
   native environment. Others, like the big cats would require meat, and   
   lots of it.   
      
   Besides, the Noah story is just a retelling of the flood story from the   
   Babylonian Epic of Gilgamesh.   
      
   >   
   >>Most   
   >>Theologians solve this by saying that not every species was brought   
   >>aboard, just every "kind".   
   >   
   > how is it that you speak for " most theologians " ?  that's the same   
   > as saying you've read every theologians work there ever was who   
   > commented on this subject, added up those for and against, and you've   
   > found 51 percent of them saying the mystery is solved.   
   >   
   > and since when do most theologians speak for God ?  that's the same as   
   > saying 51 percent of people biased toward Adolf Hitler conclude he was   
   > doing the right thing so therefore Adolf Hitler was a good man.   
      
   Yet in the past you've made all inclusive statements about atheists that   
   follow the same line of thinking. Talk about the pot calling the kettle   
   black!   
      
      
   >   
   >>This means that only the basic "kinds" of animals, dogs, cats,   
   >>elephants, and so on, were brought aboard.   
   >>So, assuming evolution does not occur, there should only be one   
   >>species of cat, dog, elephant, and so on on the earth because all of   
   >>them are decended from the original 2 (or 7, in the case of the clean   
   >>animals)of each "kind".   
   >   
   > it can not be " assumed " evolution did not occur... evolution   
   > positively did not occur because life doesn't come from elements that   
   > are not alive.   
      
   Prove it.   
      
      
   > you don't get life out of absolute sterility from a   
   > molten cinder the evolutionists describe the earth as being.   
      
   Evolutionists never described the earth as being a molten cinder. No   
   scientist from any discipline has described it that way.   
      
   > neither   
   > is time alive.  you don't get non-living things to come to life over   
   > time.  that's the same as saying just wait long enough and every dead   
   > body in the grave will come back to life if given enough time, and the   
   > dirt under my feet will come to life if given enough time.   
   >   
   > evolution is implausible and untenable.   
      
   Wrong. You clearly don't understand what evolution is all about.   
   Evolution is plausible because there is an ever mounting body of evidence   
   to support it.   
      
   And the evidence for the existence of your god? Outside of a bunch of   
   mythologies - none. No more than for any other mythological diety.   
      
      
   >   
   >>But if you simply look around a bit, you'll find all manner of cats,   
   >>big cats, small cats, cats with short hair, long hair, varying fur   
   >>patterns, varying ear sizes, varying ear shapes... How is it that we   
   >>ended up with (at least) 41 different species of cat when we only had   
   >>one to start with? I know one theory that has an answer!   
   >   
   > well just look around a bit and there is one manner of human beings...   
   > but some are oriental, some are negro, some are caucasian;  some have   
   > reddish skin, some have blackish skin, some have whitish skin, some   
   > have yellowish skin.   
   >   
   > yet, all came from Adam through Noah as it is to this day.   
      
   So which one of Noah's sons was black? Oriental? Indian? White? Red?   
      
   *Bible babble removed*   
      
      
      
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   Men become civilized, not in proportion to their willingness to believe,   
   but in proportion to their readiness to doubt - Ambrose Bierce   
      
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